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Lot's Wife
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Date: July 15, 2024 02:38PM
> You seem to believe that repeating falsehoods like
> this one makes them true. It doesn't. This is what
> the internet does to people... If repeating an
> untruth is your main line of argument, get a new
> one.
My bad. You are absolutely right. I said yesterday that you didn't get to page 40 and that was incorrect. In fact, we established that you got to page 48 (although you apparently didn't read page 47).
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> "1984" is a satire of the USSR as well as London
> in 1948, and Orwell's experiences in Catalonia
> with POUM during the Civil War there.
There it is again: deflection. You know that 1984 is NOT about the USSR but about Western Europe becoming totalitarian. Rather than acknowledge your error, however, you try to change the topic to Homage to Catalonia and hope no one notices.
Yet we saw long ago that you didn't understand Catalonia, for you assured us that Orwell renounced Marxism and became a proud conservative like you despite his saying IN THAT VERY BOOK that he remained a communist after turning against the USSR.
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Next there are Nietzsche and Marx, both of whom you claimed above to have read "many times" in the original German. Here you don't even bother to defend that spurious boast.
But the gift keeps on giving. With regard to Nietzsche, you assured us that his "views were . . . shaped by his relationship with his father." That was of course nonsense, since his father was out of the picture when Nietzsche was three.
Now watch the worm wriggle:
> Your comments on Nietzsche's father are trite and
> misleading. Up to a few generations ago, it was
> kind of a big deal to be the son of the local
> Pfarrer (pastor) in a small town like Roecken,
> much like it would be to be the son of the local
> doctor etc. Friedrich may have spent most of his
> life away from Roecken but was buried there. He
> would have been constantly reminded much of his
> early life that he was a "son of the manse" (to
> use the Scottish phrase). People both inside and
> outside the family would have asked him if he
> wished to become a pastor himself. It's pretty
> silly to assume that the dead — here we are
> talking about such a person! Relatives can (and
> do) exert an indirect influence after they die,
> and I'm not talking in any supernatural sense.
That's quite a paragraph. When confronted with the fact that Nietzsche's father could not possibly have influenced the philosopher, you tell us that Nietzsche's home town and neighbors are the same thing as his father.
Do you think anyone will buy that?
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As for mistakes on my part. . .
> There are two above. The notion I only got forty
> pages into De Tocqueville or that "1984" has no
> Soviet element.
Yes, with regard to Tocqueville, I said you didn't get to page 40 and that was wrong. As I admitted above, "you got to page 48 (although you apparently didn't read page 47)."
Regarding 1984, you're squirming again. I never said 1984 "has no Soviet element."
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> You'll be telling us "Animal Farm"
> is merely about livestock.
If I recall correctly, you were the one who didn't understand Animal Farm. Indeed, you conflated it with 1984.
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Anyway, I've detained you long enough. You can get back to reading Karl Marx. . . in the original text. . . with your "some German."
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/15/2024 06:25PM by Lot's Wife.