Before too many people go off on the deep end and imagine vast drone conspiracies ( here's an example, https://www.avinteractive.com/news/drones/mystery-drone-swarms-faked-with-advanced-av-technology-18-12-2024/ ), let's first look at some facts.


A few years back, I worked with a company using a large commercial drone to simulate a lunar lander.


Large drones are *very* expensive --$20-40K and up. Here's an example in the $40K price range.


https://aerosystemswest.com/hlm-octocopter/


Think of the time and distance factor. These drones would have to have large batteries or gas engines for extra range, not to mention satellite communications and/or surveillance equipment. Much easier (and cheaper) to get intelligence information from satellites or spy balloons.


There would have to be literally *thousands* of large drones flying all at once in many different places to account for all of the sightings, so some of them have to be nothing more than misidentified civilian aircraft with their navigation lights on, stars or planets, or other natural phenomena.


This isn't the first time this has happened.


There were a series of world wide "mystery airship" scares in the 1890s. This was long before Count Zeppelin had made any successful flights and several years before the Wright Brothers:


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mystery_airship

"The Airship Hysteria Of 1896-97"
https://cdn.centerforinquiry.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/29/1990/01/22165233/p71.pdf


So, whatever the explanation, it's most likely only a few of the sightings are actually drones.


Why anyone would want to fly them (at night with their running lights on) is another story.


Whatever is actually going on, it's certainly not this:

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Project_Blue_Beam



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Two nights ago, I saw two spots of lights, near each other, stationary, to the east and somewhat north of Mt. Rainier in Washington State.

Since I wear glasses and probably should have my eyes re-checked, I grabbed a pair of binoculars and couldn't see much difference.
Then the fog took over and my "drones or ufos" disappeared from sight.

I didn't report it to any organization, I can't handle when total strangers look at me and laugh.... my friends are meaner.

"The Airship Hysteria Of 1896-97"

This is actually on-topic from the perspective of hyperdimensional physics. These ships in the sky have always been there, but you can't see them. However, their physics is more tightly linked to consciousness than the "normal" world we see. When enough people believe in them, they can no longer be hidden.

There is a similar effect with beings like Bigfoot and woodland fairies. They are sighted by humans even though there is no physical evidence of their existence. They are not of this world, yet they are here. So Mormonism's belief in angels is at least plausible.

We are hyperdimensional beings in a fallen state, as religion correctly teaches us. Part of our physics depends on belief. Joseph Smith conjured up belief through made-up stories. More likely than not, he believed his own stories and that is what made Mormonism possible. Mental illness is a tough row to hoe, 30 wives aside, so Joseph checked out early.

The church that Joseph founded is gone. The culture from which it sprung is gone. The modern church has abandoned its roots. Now it is strong-arming communities to build monuments to Mormon Pharaoh. Mormonism has become a disease.

That is the real reason to not be Mormon anymore. Not because it's "not true".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8WOH3eoCMw

<Sampled vocals from Martin Sheen in "Roswell" (1994)>

'This visitor somehow explained the way aliens have been genetically altering the development of our DNA, from our very beginnings, and that they inspired our greatest spiritual leaders.'

'They had in fact influenced the course of human history in rather critical and startling ways.'

'Spiritual leaders.'

'Other dimensions that co-exist with our own and these beings have the technology to somehow just slip in and out.'

'This disc actually landed by intention, and then an exchange with alien life-forms...'



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bradley Wrote:
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> The church that Joseph founded is gone. The
> culture from which it sprung is gone. The modern
> church has abandoned its roots. Now it is
> strong-arming communities to build monuments to
> Mormon Pharaoh. Mormonism has become a disease.
>
> That is the real reason to not be Mormon anymore.
> Not because it's "not true".

The LDS church is the modern equivalent to the Ship of Theseus.

The real reason that it is mainstreaming is because it needs funding and support from media, government and international bodies.

LD$, Inc. wants a seat at the Evangelical power table more than they need Joseph Smith's fake book and his absurd, preposterous theology.


Mormonism is the legacy religious division of LD$, Inc. Its only modern purpose is to maintain the legal fiction that LD$, Inc. is a "church" to avoid income tax and other restrictions.


As long as it's paid for by the membership and is self-funding, LD$, Inc. reaps all of the benefits without paying any of the costs.


#############


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finances_of_the_Church_of_Jesus_Christ_of_Latter-day_Saints



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I knew that previously, but I honored my secrecy promises...

I promise, before God, angels, and these witnesses, that I will never reveal the identity of the drones.

Oh, come on. Everyone knows they are chemtrail maintenance vehicles. The reason they are clustered around New Jersey is that it has the highest concentration of chemtrails in the world, what with all the planes going in and out of NYC.

;)

I find the idea that people along the busy east coast corridor can't tell an airplane or jet when they see one ludicrous. I live within easy driving distance of three major international airports (Baltimore/BWI, Reagan/National, and Dulles.) You can add Andrews Joint Base and any number of smaller airports to the list. People in these parts know what planes and jets look and sound like. That would be just as true for the New Jersey/New York region.



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https://www.reuters.com/world/us/faa-banning-drone-flights-over-critical-infrastructure-locations-new-jersey-2024-12-19/

FAA bars drones over 22 New Jersey and 29 New York utility sites for 30 days
Spike in laser incidents linked to drone concerns, FAA says
No national security threat from drone sightings, officials say

WASHINGTON, Dec 19 (Reuters) - The Federal Aviation Administration said on Thursday it was temporarily barring drone flights over dozens of critical infrastructure sites in New Jersey and New York.

A frenzy of concern about drones in New Jersey and surrounding states has prompted a dramatic spike in the number of people in the area pointing lasers at airplanes flying overhead, which is illegal and can be dangerous, the FAA said on Wednesday.

U.S. agencies have repeatedly said that the spike in drone sightings does not pose national security risks and that they appear to be mostly aircraft, stars or hobbyist drones.
The federal government in recent days has also sent drone monitoring equipment to New Jersey and New York.

The FAA said the decision to ban drones for 30 days at 22 New Jersey utility sites was made in an abundance of caution at the request of federal security agencies after the aviation authority barred flights over two locations in the state in November.

Large drones are used in agriculture for spot treatments on fields of various types of crops.

Large & costly, but nothing in cost when compared to half million $$$ combines and tractors.

Won't be long before crop dusting will be done on many fields with drones/pilotless planes rather than live crop dusters.

Then when they are going strong we'll see a major catastrophe when a big Solar Flare screws up GPS systems - that these things rely on for location during flights. We have already seen problems with computer driven/controlled farm machinery when solar flares interrupt GPS signals.

SNL Drone Sketch

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xngnT592Kc

Bowen Yang is kind of a tool (from what I've read,) but he sure is funny. :)

I haven't heard anything about him, but he seems versatile and talented for that kind of show IMO.

A student pilot had his plane shot at in the SL area two nights ago. Incidents of laser pointers being pointed at manned aircraft have spiked.

Stars have also been misidentified as drones. Stars do fly in pretty perfect formation. Former Maryland Governor Larry Hogan reported the Orion Constellation.

I wonder if anyone has tried to shoot down a star?

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> I wonder if anyone has tried to shoot down a star?

Or if a star has started shooting. :P

I was reading a flight attendant's forum, and they are saying that their pilots are reporting an increase in UFOs -- which doesn't imply "little green men," simply aircraft that they can't identify. I would think that by now your average pilot can identify Starlink satellites just fine.

Apparently they are also reporting an increase in the use of ground-based laser pointers. :(

Visitors from Kolob are more active around Christmas. Sightings drop off after the new year.

How soon will a savvy entrepreneur open Drone Town, perhaps adjacent or similar to Dollywood or 6 Flags?


any investors please contact me to get in on the ground floor, Really...