Now I know what some of you will say, i.e. prophets and patriarchs are just like psychics, but that's not what I mean. If any of this is true, it does challenge notions of how the church is run.

We are accustomed to thinking of the church as a bureaucratic corporation now and most of the magical practices being buried deeper than Moroni's gold, maybe apart drom the odd priesthood blessing. But delve deeper and there are odder things in the modern church such as Bednar's involvement in climate repentance ceremonies and Nelson's membership of creepy frats at UoU (which is detailed in earlier editions of his own memoir.)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=p6BKLmOhvPc

This video has an interesting take on Church leaders and psychics. In it, Carah Burrell, who used to work for the Church and then for Mormon Stories before starting her own podcast, alleges that she has an inside source that claims that psychics like Thom Harrison and Janet Russon essentially run the Church, meaning that when Church leaders are thinking of doing something important they check with psychics like Harrison and Russon before they do anything.

What proof does she offer? A little, maybe not much, but there's plenty out there to support her allegations.

First support is that some people are saying that when Tim Ballard would get challenged in his use of Harrison and Russon by volunteers who were believing members, he would call Russ Ballard and Grandpa Ballard (Russ was only Tim's honorary Pawpaw) would tell them that Church leaders also used Harrison, Russon, and others as their conduits to God.

Also, there's the fact that "Visions of Glory" was accepted in the first place. General authorities vet everything sold at Desert Book. I guarantee that the First Presidency knew of the book and who provided the account before it went on the shelves. The fact it was ever on the shelves is tacit approval.

Besides Burrell's alleged source, she has a spreadsheet from a Church crisis meeting in October 2023 when Tim Ballard was crashing and burning in which they mention that the greatest risk to the Church is the "optics" of members finding out about the use of psychics by general leaders, especially when the use of such had been officially forbidden forever in the Church.

We live in strange times.

That's a lot of hearsay crappy sources and assumptions.

This methodology would be to akin to witchcraft and shortish for the modern church

Spiritism

The priesthood is akin to witchcraft.

Could be why women don't get it. They don't a repeat of Salem.

Ha. I like to play the old game of substitute the word “know” for “hope” every time a TBM declares “I know X is true!”

Now I get to play the new game of replacing “priesthood” with “witchcraft.”

“It is proposed that little Tommy Tibbins receive the Aaronic Witchcraft and be ordained to the office of a Deacon...”

Financial psychics!

What does God tell you about expanding our 500 billion stronghold!??!

Tell Christ to stuff it, and beg that our 500 billion fund, go to him (as a sacrifice to make sure it's justified that we bribe him), and tell him he can have all the temples too! Money, money, money!

Occam’s Razor: no psychics are needed to explain the church’s actions. The temple binge etc makes perfect sense given the personalities involved.

Considering what I have seen and read with current politics, videos\claims on social media, channels\podcasts that infer to be news, the daily stunts of people, and lets not forget Lizard people,

The circus has arrived and the clowns are in charge.

If said claim is proven true it would not surprise me. If its another false narrative it would not surprise me.

I wouldn't be surprised if they wear a black apron in the temple.

I rely on Physics.

I believe all things!

Are you suggesting that church leaders are more credible than psychics?

I doubt it, because they are both bunk. All Gen Con is a business meeting, without telling the membership how much they have. Everyone would no longer pay tithing, if they know exact numbers.

What is the church afraid of? I am going to figure the bribery is going to go way up.



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The church relies on surveys and marketing firms. They even announced it when Apostles made a change to the missionary program in the 1980s. Sort of shocking to hear them brag about spending a bundle of money on research. I would have expected them to have prayed and fasted with an overhaul of the program.

But they are the Lord's pointy haired bosses.

Psychos

In the end we're all psychics.

which end?

In fact, she's done a traveling show about Emma playing the woman herself, performed for Relief Societies all over Utah.

In any case, I was shocked to find my MIL puts a lot of stock in psychics.

Yes, it's very odd.