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Posted by: anybody ( )
Date: February 25, 2025 12:54PM

Place your bets now...

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Posted by: GNPE ( )
Date: February 25, 2025 01:21PM

When pigs fly


When Russ tells everyone ChurchCo isn't in touch with Jesus & that he has liquidated LDS Inc. and is calling from a tropical 'Undisclosed Location'



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/25/2025 02:26PM by GNPE.

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Posted by: Heartless ( )
Date: February 26, 2025 01:35AM

My understanding is the prohibition on crosses for personal wear has been lifted.

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Posted by: GNPE ( )
Date: February 26, 2025 02:59AM

Wouldn't that be backing away from their habits - patterns of micromanagement?

Thats a challenge in itself.

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Posted by: Susan I/S ( )
Date: February 26, 2025 04:38AM

At one point mormons did wear them. I have an old picture of my Great Aunt wearing one as a child. I think it would have been the 1910s or early 1920s.

They are now very popular among the TradCatholics/CryptoCatholics.

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Posted by: Brother Of Jerry ( )
Date: February 26, 2025 10:42AM

Wearing a cross seems to be something of a thing among the under-30 LDS crowd. I doubt that is very widespread, but at least the stigma is gone.

I do think it will be a long time - at least a generation, maybe two, before you will see a large cross on the wall in the chapel. But I do think it is coming, as part of mainstreaming.

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Posted by: valkyriequeen ( )
Date: February 26, 2025 12:16PM

They'll start putting up crosses when they remove the Moroni statues from the temples.

After all, his daddy has a bad devilish name.

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Posted by: Brother Of Jerry ( )
Date: February 26, 2025 12:46PM

I was going to say they are already creating a fair number of temples without the Moroni statues, but I just looked through the church's photo gallery of temples, and most of them do have the statue.

In the early Utah church, most of the temples did not have a Moroni statue - St George, Manti, Logan, Cardston, Mesa, Hawaii. Only the SLC temple had the statue. The statue became a fixture on new temples starting in 1945 at Idaho Falls.

I don't know when in the modern era (post-1945) they started omitting the statue from some temples.

ETA: I found the following at the LDS Newsroom site:

The Salt Lake Temple, dedicated in 1893, was the first temple topped with an angel that was formally identified as Moroni. The original 40-inch plaster model was completed by October 4, 1891 and exhibited at the Salt Lake Fair. A full-size model was sent to Salem, Ohio, where the statue was hammered out of copper and covered with 22-karat gold leaf. The 12-foot-5-inch statue stands on a stone ball on the 210-foot central spire on the east side.

The Los Angeles Temple, dedicated in 1956, was the second temple to be dressed with an angel Moroni statue. Millard F. Malin made the plaster casts of his 15-foot-5-inch statue in Salt Lake City. These casts were sent in five pieces to New York City, where they were cast in aluminum and welded together. The statue was made of aluminum instead of bronze to meet the Los Angeles building code. Even so, the statue weighed 2,100 pounds.

The Washington D.C. Temple, dedicated in 1974, was the third temple to be topped with an angel Moroni statue. Nine sculptors submitted designs. Avard Fairbanks’s design of a graceful angel holding a trumpet to its lips and a replica of the gold plates in its left arm was selected.

In 1978 the Church commissioned Karl A. Quilter to fashion a new angel Moroni statue. Together Karl Quilter and LaVar Wallgren developed a process of casting fiberglass that made it possible to create lightweight statues less expensively. Quilter and Wallgren constructed two original molds, one for a 10-foot statue and the other for a 7-foot statue. The resulting statues weighed about 350 pounds.

Several temples have received angels after their dedications. The first was the Idaho Falls Idaho Temple, which had an angel Moroni statue added in 1983, almost 40 years after its dedication. As a part of renovation projects in the 2000s, the Church added angel Moroni statues to several of the originally statueless temples, including the Freiberg Germany (2001), Ogden Utah (2002), Provo Utah (2003), São Paulo Brazil (2003), Tokyo Japan (2004), Bern Switzerland (2005) and London England (2008) Temples.

While the Angel Moroni statue occupies a prominent place on many temples throughout the world—symbolizing the restoration of the gospel of Jesus Christ—it is not a requirement of temple design. Some temples may include the statue, while others may not.

A temple's design, both internal and external, is secondary to its primary purpose, which is for people to draw closer to God and His Son, Jesus Christ by participating in sacred ceremonies that teach of God's plan and unite families forever.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 02/26/2025 12:55PM by Brother Of Jerry.

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Posted by: GNPE ( )
Date: February 26, 2025 02:40PM

'formerly identified as Moroni'?

Did ChurchCo REALLY write that????

I live in NW Washington State, I see more crosses almost daily, the 'Christians' seem to sport them as a badge.

The Bible warns against flouting the 'outward appearances'.

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Posted by: Roy G Biv ( )
Date: February 26, 2025 04:29PM

I've always found it interesting that Christianity, a religion supposedly based on love, uses an anchient device used to inflict a tortuous and gruesome death on humans as the symbol of their faith.

Nothing screams LOVE like a crucifiction!

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Posted by: anybody ( )
Date: February 26, 2025 05:09PM


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Posted by: dagny ( )
Date: February 26, 2025 05:13PM

LOL
Or gleefully damning people to hell.

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