10. Clean language in public but not pollution-free air in Utah
9. Modest clothes in public but not modest expense accounts for leaders
8. Humble obedience to their leaders but not humble attitudes towards other religions
7. Good clean fun books but not good books about really important socialistic concerns, feminist concerns or environmental issues
6. Justice for themselves and their religion but not just about single individuals they disagree with
5. Mercy for the wayward but not for the unrepentant and atheistic
4. Love for their god but not for the godless
3. Charity for themselves and their own but not for the poor in their neighborhoods but not their religion
2. Hope for a New Jerusalem, Zion, or Utah but not for the world
1. Faith in a quorum of elderly businessmen, lawyers and bureaucrats but not in humanity itself

Perfect list :)

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> Perfect list :)


It needs an addendum. If you don't stand for one or some of these things as a TBM, you might fall for unconditional faith, hope and charity.

Just look at supportive TBM parents of gay children. Just look at TBMs sympathetic to disbelief and the disbelievers. Just look at TBMs who enjoy learning about other religions and think that those beliefs are as interesting and equal to their own in importance. Just look at the TBM individualists, well, they probably don't exist or at least LDS leadership wishes they didn't.

1 Inability to manage your own life.
2 Inability to manage your own life.
3 Inability to manage your own life.
4 Inability to manage your own life.
5 Inability to manage your own life.
6 Inability to manage your own life.
7 Inability to manage your own life.
8 Inability to manage your own life.
9 Inability to manage your own life.
10 Inability to manage your own life.

Is their more?

Inability to form independent thoughts.

11 Inability to manage your own beliefs but will begrudgingly allow others to have other beliefs.

Caveat. Does not apply if you are a member.

..."Sitting for Something" since most of what they do for their religion involves meetings.

It's been 30 years and I still haven't trained my wife to kneel.