If the LDS have the same success rate in mainland China, they will get 10% of China

is really bad at math.

Here is how he computes:
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From the LDS.ORG site:

"In his visit to Mongolia, Elder Holland said he was pleased to see the many people who have joined the Church since its inception in the country in 1992.

"'To come here and see the Church in Mongolia — born in a day in a sense — 10,000 strong [and] nearly one in every 10 citizens in Ulaanbaater are members of the Church, I was just unprepared for this,' Elder Holland said."


http://newsroom.lds.org/article/apostles-visit-india-hong-kong

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Now, note that the total number of members of the Church in all of Mongolia is approximately 10,000 (probably a bit less).

From that, Holland extrapolates that the number of members of the Church account for 10% of the population of Ulaanbaatar alone. But, but, but.... Ulaanbaatar has a population of over 1 million.

Holland says, "I was unprepared for this." Well, so are a lot of people--especially the people of Ulaanbaatar, who have just been informed that there are now fewer than 100,000 people remaining in their city. Is Holland the angel of death? What happened to the other 900,000 plus residents? This is terrifying!! Please don't let Holland ever visit your home city. It's genocide. And yet Holland sits there and smiles about his accomplishment. He just wiped out 90% of Ulaanbaatar's population and he thinks it's a good thing. Just watch out for that guy!!

They're not exactly mentioned in the BoM...or any of the other standard works. And I don't think mass immigration will be encouraged.

OTOH, look at all the little pagoda temples that can be built! And not such a big jump from Chairman Mao to Chairman Monson?

RAG Wrote:
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>And not such a big jump from
> Chairman Mao to Chairman Monson?

:-)

The church is currently outlawed in China.

China allows the church to maintain and operate congregations in major cities to serve the ex-pat communities. No proselyting is allowed and church meetings are closely observed by Chinese security to see if citizens wander in there.

It has a status not unlike the Falun Gong movement.

The Chinese government, due to its concern about a stable population (and due to the fact that it is a very controlling entity itself) happens to be very educated about cults and their dangerous influence and subversive methods.

Mormonism has nearly zero chance of being allowed in China IMO. China will never allow any organization that:

1. Requires tithing-tax only for the benefit of the cult.

2. Requires an oath swearing allegiance to the cult before all else.

3. Requires belief in a false conspiracy story of worldwide proportions (the so-called apostacy).

4. Requires literal belief in numerous, easily proven falsehoods.

The church has been salivating over China for many decades and lds officials have been over there often kissing up to government officials. The only, possible chance I would see for the church to gain approval would be for them to split the tithing take with the government of China, or something like that.

Generally speaking mormonism is a complete FAIL in Asia for the most part. Mormon membership in most Asian countries has been stagnant or shrinking for 3 decades. Ask any returned missionaries about attendance in weekly meetings. Only the Philippines has any growth at all, and this is because the Philippines is already heavily christian and because many people are not connected to the internet with access to facts about mormonism.

As far as Mongolia, even Cumorah.com reports that the number of active Mongolians is less than 3500. Holland is LYING again and merely quoting a membership number out of church records, and he knows damn well he is lying his ass off.

There is no way Mongolia has 10k active members. If there were 10k active members there would be over 20 Wards operating. However, the church reports less than 20 branches so the 3k member numbers seem accurate, and the 10k number impossible!

The one missionary I knew who went to Mongolia told me that weekly attendance was often less than 50.

Wait until President Romney allows even more of our economy to be outsourced to China.

Then, missionaries will be allowed in China.