Years ago one of the BICs (Buffoons-in-Charge) declared that face cards should never be found in a good LDS home. The guy is dead now though, so face cards are OK.
In my family, we had a religious nut (well, we have lots of religious nuts, but my aunt was extreme). At our cabin, she found a deck of cards with face cards in it. She gave us a long lecture and hid the cards. My mother was ticked off--found the cards--and began to play canasta. There was a fight (no real physical abuse, but it got close).
Those two (my mother and my aunt) never spoke again. I really laughed at that one. It was one of the few times I respected my mother!
My grandma lived in SLC, so when I was at BYU I would go stay with her for the weekend once a month. Since many of my friends were far from home, I would invite them to come and stay there. My grandma loved the company.
My grandma loved to play gin rummy, so we spent lots times playing cards. One of my roommates told her that face cards were of the devil. Since she was a good Mormon (one of the few very good people I've ever known), she was very upset by this accusation. She didn't want to give up playing cards, especially since she played bridge with her former co-workers every month. It really upset her that he told her that.
Why rob a retired woman of a harmless pleasure, and honestly how did differ from playing uno? My grandma and I spent many hours playing cards, and it was a great way to bond and enjoy each others company.
What is wrong with a religion that ignores great evils in the world, like the destruction of the environment, and instead attacks harmless pleasures like cards and tea?
Showing upper arms and/or shoulders or legs above the knee on females is immodest.
Shunning.
Associate only with other Mormons.
Adult women speaking to everyone as if they are talking to a three year old.
Basically, anything a Profit said that can be revoked in the future as he was speaking only as man- things as no "unnatural" colored hair, no flip-flops, only one ear ring per ear, and no tattoos.
"Showing upper arms and/or shoulders or legs above the knee on females is immodest.".....even for four year old little girls (that Hanna's new dress nausea a few months back)
using children to compete for most righteous title bearing testimony every 30 days no fashionable clothing, shoes,or haircuts after age 30 competition that uses temporal possessions as proof of uber righteousness. using your spouses callings to prop up status thinking showing up at anyones home at any time is acceptable using ancestors to prop up status talking mormon speak no matter where you are. chastising people thru a prayer or lesson undermining the free agency of others inflating or making up spiritual experiences fabricating spiritual experiences for the youth constantly interviewing people asking kids inappropriate sexual questions making up rules as they go along etc.etc.etc.
Calling each other by a church title in a non-church setting. President...., Elder...., Sister......
Actually, even in a church setting is strange. In most churches the only local people that are addressed with a title are the pastor/priest that are usually known as Rev. .... or Father ......
i went shopping in manti one week-end, struck up a conversation with the clerk. she gave me a funny look and said, you aren't from here are you? why do you say that? i ask. Your nice,nobody around here is nice. why? I ask. They all think they're better than everyone else. Why is that? i ask. She said "they all think they are in the ck, and apparently you have to be a bitch if you want to fit in. In the ck? i asked? Yep. So if you don't want to go to the ck you should never come back here again.
That was a strange conversation. I'm taking her advice.
We went to eat at a restaurant in Logan a few years ago--my ex, his partner, our twins, and I. We ordered wine. When we were about done eating, the waiter said, "You aren't from here, are you?" Well, yes, we are. He said, "You act too normal to be from Utah."
He was an RM who had left the church.
I actually have an older "grinder"--but it is my mormon grandmother's coffee grinder.
I was thinking in terms of can't dress fashionable even if there are fashions that meet their guidelines. It is important to dress matronly.
And those mushroom haircuts--do they have any idea how bad those look (especially with all that hairspray to make them stay in place)?
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we all know that many members (not all) don't follow that advice. They don't even follow their own 11th Article of Faith.
The Articles of Faith - #11: We claim the privilege of worshiping Almighty God according to the dictates of our own conscience, and allow all men the same privilege, let them worship how, where, or what they may.
But, people will be ...well..... people. They will engage in behavior that is contrary to their own religious teachings.
So to be clear, again: yes, some Mormons engage in shunning, even though they are taught not to.
The combination of mia's "competition that uses temporal possessions as proof of uber righteousness" and crafting that results in a half-million dollar house that looks like it was decorated by a recreational therapy group.
i haven't been in any houses in Utah. so, not sure about the decorating. always imagined craft stuff, framed religious prints,and baby grands. Oh yeah and a top of the line wheat grinder. am i right?
My grandma did indeed have such a wheat grinder, but I only remember it being used once (see my first post in the thread)
The rest is spot on -- toll painting, jute and raffia as far as the eye can see. Word art with "love" and "family" is also ubiquitous.
Granted, I've been out of the morridor for over a decade, but considering the level of 70s decor at that time, I don't imagine it's much different now.
Ugh!!! When looking for a home just south of Salt Lake, I could tell immediately the Mormon homes and we unfortunately saw lots and lots of them. Church art, vinyl wall lettering, huge picture of young married couple outside the temple, and metal stars hung on the wall.
are one in the same much of the time. The culture is how Mormonism is lived.
Clothing/styles etc. will vary by the area people live in: Hawaii, will be different than Alaska, for instance. We have lived in some areas that had very affluent sections so the clothing in one ward/stake would vary greatly.
We wore pants in the chapel for rehearsals, choir practice, but it was not considered proper dress for Sacrament meeting, but I never saw anyone told to leave if they came in slacks.
Dress for youth dances, on the other hand is very strict. It seems to be standard across the board in all wards and stakes.
Tithing is a charitable contribution and many people, including us, used it as such on our tax forms as we itemized. When we got tax returns (usually sizable)I called them Tithing Refunds! :-)
We had beautiful draperies in many of the windows of the church buildings, especially the older ones.
Boy Scouts is an official program of the LDS Church. Can't get around that one.
Proper attire is not about culture, it's requirements for participating in the LDS Church, just as it is in many other churches.
No facial hair for men is not strictly enforced, except, in the temple as a worker, I am told. (Know many LDS men with mustaches!)
Organizing by geographic wards is similar to how Chicago,(and other areas) for instance, is organized by wards for political purposes.