The thread that exmo cryophil started is still generating some very funny remarks by the serious minded Mo Apologists and sycophants.

For example, Brant Gardner, writer of a 7 volume treatise on BoM culture/archaeology, writes regarding the location of BoM events:
"Sorenson's model places the city of Nephi in highland Guatemala, which is absolutely beautiful and the best climate I have ever lived in. If you are wondering if Nephi would have agreed with you, it is quite likely that he did! "


"the best statement is that locations are known, but not excavated. The unexcavated aren't published because no one wants to encourage the inevitable looting. The basic surveys indicate that there are significantly more sites to be excavated than have been. There is still much to learn (and likely more surprises like San Bartolo). "
(Brant, ever think believers of Atlantis say nearly the same thing?)

http://www.mormondialogue.org/topic/56087-book-of-mormon-archaeology/page__view__findpost__p__1209060586


Other highlights:

". While there has come out a lot of evidences related to the BOM, especially for the last 30 years, unless you become an expert in the subject, you're missing what it takes to validate Restoration claims, including the BOM. Go to an LDS bookstore and/or the library and start studying LDS scholarship on the matter."


" I think the fundamental problem that all religions people have, mormon or otherwise, is the assumption that the scriptures are somehow protected from any errors such as cultural influences, linguistic limitations, or human bias. Although we Mormons are willing to accept such faults in bible to support the doctrine of the apostasy, we (the royal we) tend not to apply the same standards to the Book of Mormon which leads to the false conclusions. ... I am of the opinion that many of the passages we now consider scripture were not intended to be scripture; they just became so because of tradition."

(if only this dude would extend his thinking to the assumption that Joseph Smith was protected from lying.)

Then someone asks Brant for a reference using CFR, and they get into an argument about what that acronym really intends to mean. They completely forget to address the actual question: are you effin crazy?

Jesus Smith Wrote:
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> (quoting Gardner)
> "the best statement is that locations are known,
> but not excavated. The unexcavated aren't
> published because no one wants to encourage the
> inevitable looting. The basic surveys indicate
> that there are significantly more sites to be
> excavated than have been. There is still much to
> learn (and likely more surprises like San
> Bartolo)."

This brings back memories. Half a century ago we Mormons knew that just around the corner would be an archaeological discovery in Central America that would totally prove the Book of Mormon. The imagined stuff that's GOING TO BE FOUND easily refutes the damning stuff that has been found.

baura Wrote:
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>
> This brings back memories. Half a century ago we
> Mormons knew that just around the corner would be
> an archaeological discovery in Central America
> that would totally prove the Book of Mormon. The
> imagined stuff that's GOING TO BE FOUND easily
> refutes the damning stuff that has been found.


Only early this year Deseret News was still publishing articles by Michael Ash promising to list these evidences. They canceled his series before he could do it though. Michael Ash is on "the e management team for FAIR" according to the DN.

Ash wrote this on May 30, 2011.
"In the next installments, I plan to discuss some of the fascinating ways in which the Book of Mormon correctly converges with what we now know about the ancient cultures from which it claims to have been written and derived. In other words, I plan on discussing some of the evidences that support the ancient historicity of the Book of Mormon."

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705373576/Many-interconnected-pieces-of-evidence-support-the-Book-of-Mormon.html

Then the last article appeared a week later.
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705373944/Challenging-Issues-Keeping-the-Faith-A-better-methodology.html

That JESUS CHRIST! visited a bunch of other peeps too. And they had all these scriptures themeselves just WAITING to be uncovered.

And I always thought, "shouldn't we then be out LOOKING for them?"

You know the BoM has the "we have a bible we have a bible, we are such jerks"

But this was the same kind of "we have a BoM, we have a BoM."

If scriptures were just buried EVERYWHERE proving that Christ Jesus deserved his title, shouldn't finding them be the number one priority?








Or maybe it's all just made up.