http://www.myfoxdc.com/dpp/news/saudi-women-with-sexy-eyes-may-be-forced-to-cover-them-up-ncxdc-111711

"A spokesperson for Saudi Arabia's Committee for the Promotion of Virtue and the Prevention of Vice (CPVPV), Sheikh Motlab al Nabet, said the committee had the right to stop women revealing "tempting" eyes in public."

What if they wear sexy sunglasses? Sexy fingernails? Sexy walk? Is there anything that could not be classified as "sexy" by someone?

Exactly. To some a pulse is sexy enough.

A pulse? Some don't even require that.....sad but true.

i would guess Arab men in repressed countries may like their women with a pulse....and nothing else

From what I understood, all Saudi women, especially of the royal family, were required to wear the full on abaaya and veil. Only the bedouin women have their eyes uncovered.

And, yes, some of the Saudi women take it to the extreme of always wearing gloves in public because of high fear of the mutaween.



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It was purely a matter of choice -- women are not required to cover up. They can certainly go bare-faced and bare-headed. I was told many of them wear quite elaborate makeup.

Are you referring to foreigners who went to Saudi? I know the some of the rules don't apply, but that many of the foreign female workers were attacked and spray painted red for wearing a skirt that was right below the knees.

I'm finishing the "Princess" biography series about an Saudi Princess by Jean Sasson and Princess Sultana goes into detail about some of the crazy laws and rules women have to abide by when they reach menses. Sultana also goes on to explain that the veiled women wear very elaborate makeup, hairstyles, and designer clothes under the abaayas for each other.



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They dress very conservatively but many do not cover heads/faces at all.

which would make them safe from the morals police in SA.

Believe me, native or foreign, if you don't have the connections, you DO NOT want to be a woman in Saudi and not be covered. It ain't conducive to your health or long life.

since the first Gulf war, but they told me some women wore normal hairstyles and makeup.

Now, what I see on TV is women covering pretty much everything EXCEPT their faces. So, no, their faces are still not covered. Just check out Anthony Bourdain's recent show from Saudi. His hostess for the episode was a woman.

Without us watching, it is FAR worse. It was even during Desert Storm.

These were just normal public places and eateries.
That said, I would never want to live there.

Watch the episode before making assumptions.

Who's making assumptions?

And who would you say has more valid information?

in SAUDI and in BAHRAIN

Or am I breaking the cardinal rules of RfM? which are:

1) Bad Girl is ALWAYS right.

2) If Bad Girl is not right, let her think she is.

Sorry, not this time. You're WRONG. Deal with it.

That's why I was a little confused...The Saudi Arabia Sultana describes is incredible secretive and women are beaten or killed for the slightest offenses. She relays a story of a 12 year old girl who was raped by her brother's friends, impregnated, and stoned to death for being a "whore."

I would never want to live there either.

"To walk around revealing every lash, each brow, each bump and curve of your cornea, the details of your pupil and iris makes you into walking pornography."

Would it make more sense for the men to wear blindfolds? The women can lead them where-ever they need to go and everyone can be safe.

:)

Rebeckah Wrote:
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> Would it make more sense for the men to wear
> blindfolds? The women can lead them where-ever
> they need to go and everyone can be safe.
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That is the best idea I have heard yet. The men could also take medications to eliminate their sex drives and they could also chop off their...well...you know. Better living through medicine.

. . . where I saw many Saudi women of means passing through the lobby and dining in the fancy restaurant there.

The way by which these women would display their status and beauty was not only through their finely-woven burqas but also through the types of elegant designer shoes they wore (which were at least partially visible beneath their shroud hemlines).

Also, they would decorate their eyes with elegant applications of make-up. In their own way, despite the tight restructions placed on what they could wear, they were actually quite attractive.
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The following is said to be a spoof, but it nonetheless illustrates the challenge women in conservative, chauvinistic male-run Middle Eastern countries face in displaying their individual personalities and tastes:

http://1389blog.com/pix/pointless2.jpg



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. . . drive and doing so unaccompanied by a man (despite it being a U.S. military vehicle), as well as daring to go around in public with her head bared. She said she was treated condescendingly by men, in particular, and was given the "evil eye" when she went out shopping in the local markets, behind the wheel and "inappropriately" uncovered.

This American servicewoman was outspoken and angry about the ill treatment she was afforded (especially, she said, since she was there as part of a major allied military operation to protect Saudi Arabia against Iraqi invasion). She felt she was not being shown the respect she deserved.

Nonetheless, she said she finally gave in, trying to make things easier for herself while attempting to function in Saudi society--meaning she bought herself her own burqa and wore it when out in public and when shopping.

But she did so under protest, It really bugged the hell out her to compromise but she did so in the name of what she regarded as necessary practicality.

I tell ya, though, she was royally ticked at the Royal Kingdom.



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How do you know if they have sexy eyes if you can't see their boobs?

Just wonderin'...

Ron

myself, the sight of (Gasp) an ankle gets me going...

Well, one of the 15 will be coming out next conference telling all the women if they don't want to be licked cupcakes they need to always wear dark sunglasses so men can't be forced into wanting sex with them or have impure thoughts about them.....

Islam. Just as dumb as Christianity.

When was in Afghanistan and especially Dubai, used to check out the feet of the women covered head to toe....some were wearing very sexy shoes, jewelry, painted toenails etc....

It seems to me that the one with the "impure thoughts" should be the one punished. To be made of such weak stuff as to be unable to control his thoughts ( or actions) shows what an inferior being that he really is!
Perhaps they should be blinded, that way they can remain pure in such an inpure world!
By-the-way, all clit-cutters should have penis muliations!

You encounter them at Dubai International Airport. They get off the plane with you. They are completely in a black abaya, hijjab, and veiled face. But you see the beautiful eyes and the sexy high-heeled sandals with beautiful toes. You walk down the jetway, and see them go off into one of the unused gates and pull the abaya off over their heads, and voila, a beautiful and sexy woman in tight jeans and a tank top appears. They be talking about these women.

Makes me glad I don't live in Saudi Arabia by a long shot.

I spent three years in Saudi Arabia as a financial systems consultant at the time of the Gulf War and for three years after it. I did not work for ARAMCO or other large company with an American compound, so I lived within the Saudi community in Jubail, about 60 miles north of Dhahran. I traveled to Dhahran, Riyadh and and Jeddah for business. I lived across the street from a Mutaween police man.

The wives of the Mutaween wore 7 veils which completely covered their faces, and had to be lead around by their sons, because they could not see. The Mutaween across the street padlocked his front door after his sons went to school and before he went to work so his wives could not venture out in the community without a male family member to accompany them. All of the women wore abayas in Jubail, including the western women. Saudi women always covered their heads. While you would occasionally see a Saudi woman's eyes in Riyadh or Jeddah, you would never see them in a more rural setting such as Jubail. Western women wore the Abaya, but generally did not cover their heads.

The Saudis view themselves as being the keepers of the holy sites and more pious than any other Arab country. I had a number of western educated Saudis in my home. When in someone's house the women removed their abayas and veils and were dressed in western clothes, including tank tops and mini skirts. While in public they all wore the abaya, veils, and in many cases black gloves. The military called them BMOs (black mobile objects).

This type of thinking won't last through this century. Too much internet. Too much global business and trade. Too many people who now view traditional religions as control mechanisms. Modern women won't keep putting up with this.

This is all part of the necessary steps towards building a mature world society that is equitable and just, and part of a plan.

Please, PLEASE read "Princess," "Princess Sultana's Daughters," and "Princess Sultana's Circle." Sultana (not her real name) and Jean Sasson wrote these books, at the risk of their lives, to show the world what is really going on behind the closed doors in Saudi Arabia. The only reason Sultana has not been another victim of "honour" killing is because she could really embarrass the Saudi Royal family members.