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Posted by: Drew90 ( )
Date: November 18, 2011 04:48PM

He says he forgot about the gun in his carry on bag. This guy spoke at a singles ward I went to this year. http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/news/52946404-78/swapp-gun-airport-carry.html.csp

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Posted by: BadGirl ( )
Date: November 18, 2011 05:04PM

It happens. Just plain carelessness. (n/t)
LOL

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Posted by: matt ( )
Date: November 18, 2011 05:06PM

Hee hee hee! ;o))



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/18/2011 05:06PM by matt.

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Posted by: matt ( )
Date: November 18, 2011 05:09PM

>Dankers said even if a person has a concealed carry permit, it is illegal to bring a weapon onto a plane in a carry-on bag.

So, you have concealed carry permits... but not really!

I mean, I would have thought either you have a licence to carry a concealed weapon or you don't.

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Posted by: BadGirl ( )
Date: November 18, 2011 05:13PM

There are laws, rules and limitations involved in concealed-carry. They vary from state to state.

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Posted by: SoCal Apostate ( )
Date: November 18, 2011 05:15PM

matt Wrote:
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> >Dankers said even if a person has a concealed
> carry permit, it is illegal to bring a weapon onto
> a plane in a carry-on bag.
>
> So, you have concealed carry permits... but not
> really!
>
> I mean, I would have thought either you have a
> licence to carry a concealed weapon or you don't.


The various government/law-enforcement agencies that grant the permits can only give authorization for their own jurisdiction and those of other agencies that agree to honor their permits (willignly or by influence of a higher jurisdiction, such as state laws forcing counties to recognize each other's permits.) The Feds "own" the juridiction in this case, and they aren't "in on the agreement".

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Posted by: BadGirl ( )
Date: November 18, 2011 05:19PM

States may also have laws against carrying a firearm in establishments that serve alcohol. There are also city & county buildings & courthouses that don't allow you to carry a weapon.

Private entities can always make their own rules as well. Not laws, but rules.

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Posted by: helamonster ( )
Date: November 18, 2011 05:28PM

He may have a state-issued concealed carry permit, but federal regs (TSA in this case) trump all local laws.

He was an idiot not to have remembered this.



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Posted by: BadGirl ( )
Date: November 18, 2011 06:59PM

And he was pretty damned apologetic about it, too.

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Posted by: helamonster ( )
Date: November 18, 2011 07:26PM

You know all cops are required to carry a sidearm at all times, right?

Well, I worked with one who once left his fanny pack with pistol in a shopping cart at the supermarket.

Do you think his Sergeant said, "Ah well, oversights happen. Don't do it again."?

No. He was suspended. Damn near lost his job.

My point is, if you "forget" where you have a gun, then you DAMN SURE SHOULD HAVE YOUR CONCEALED CARRY PERMIT REVOKED. But then, people who love guns but have never had to shoot anyone always conveniently overlook stuff like that.

He deserves every bit of trouble he's in.

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Posted by: BadGirl ( )
Date: November 18, 2011 07:50PM

You sure are an angry little person.

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Posted by: matt ( )
Date: November 18, 2011 09:21PM

Angry, yes. Rude, no.

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Posted by: BadGirl ( )
Date: November 19, 2011 02:29PM

Helamonster has some issues.

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Posted by: lulu ( )
Date: November 18, 2011 05:29PM

he's not on a plane. He's in an airport.

He doesn't have the option of just backing out.

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Posted by: BadGirl ( )
Date: November 18, 2011 06:59PM

He couldn't just leave because he had already broken the law just by having the pistol in the secured area.

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Posted by: lulu ( )
Date: November 18, 2011 07:03PM

from a quick internet search. So the secure area (in UT) is the screening line? So is that a violation of state or fed law? Or both?

Oh, and thanks.

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Posted by: Whiskey_Tango ( )
Date: November 19, 2011 04:01PM


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Posted by: baura ( )
Date: November 19, 2011 04:43PM

I have a drivers license but there are certain places I can't drive. It is my responsibility to not drive in those places.

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Posted by: BadGirl ( )
Date: November 18, 2011 05:15PM

I don't know what all the fuss is about. It's not the first time somebody has forgotten about a pistol and gotten in trouble at the airport. It happens fairly often.

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Posted by: SoCal Apostate ( )
Date: November 18, 2011 05:18PM


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Posted by: Tabula Rasa ( )
Date: November 18, 2011 05:46PM

Totally. Had a client once that was a former landman for a large oil company. When he travelled in West Texas, he always had his six-shooter with him. While out in the boonies one time, he got a call saying "git back here right now" and had to haul ass to the airport in Midland for a flight back to OK City. Well, of course, he had his gun in his briefcase and tried to go through security.

His quote: "If ya wanna see just how many cops and security guys there are in a small airport, go through security with your gun in your briefcase."

Ron

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Posted by: wine country girl ( )
Date: November 18, 2011 05:57PM


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Posted by: bona dea ( )
Date: November 18, 2011 05:59PM

It was stupid and careless, but it happens all the time. I doubt he was planning on hijacking the plane. If he were, that would be newsworthy.



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Posted by: mav ( )
Date: November 18, 2011 09:24PM


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Posted by: Just Wondering ( )
Date: November 18, 2011 06:29PM

...why he needs to be carrying a weapon anyway. Doesn't he believe his Heavenly Father will protect him? And if Heavenly Father by himself isn't sufficient, doesn't he have his miraculous garments to protect from harm? Isn't carrying a gun a sign that this person is really putting his faith in an arm of flesh? How can such a faithless person appear with a straight face to speak at a Ward Fireside about faith? Aren't his actions speaking so much louder than his words?

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Posted by: flanders ( )
Date: November 18, 2011 07:16PM

Remember Craig..."One call, that's all!"

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Posted by: apatheist ( )
Date: November 18, 2011 09:36PM

lol

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Posted by: cludgie ( )
Date: November 18, 2011 09:02PM

The rifle's for shootin', the gun is for fun.

The man needs to see his bishop.



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Posted by: Drew90 ( )
Date: November 19, 2011 10:34AM

I just want to know who Craig's going to call now to be his lawyer. Himself?

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Posted by: robertb ( )
Date: November 19, 2011 01:42PM

I don't blame security for taking it seriously. That is the nature of good security. They can't blow it off because it was unintentional even when they know it was unintentional.



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Posted by: SusieQ#1 ( )
Date: November 19, 2011 03:33PM

Sometimes the gun is just taken for granted and forgotten about and this is what happened in this case.
He won't do it again!
It's newsworthy as it is something they deal with at the airports on a daily basis. It's a good reminder that it's serious business to have a gun in your carry on luggage at the airport. Very serious. The whole point is to catch the "bad guys" but once in awhile, the "good guys" mess up too!!

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