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Posted by: michaelm (not logged in) ( )
Date: December 31, 2011 02:51PM

An article came out yesterday about Mormons being the wrong kind of minority. It complains that other minorities get recognized when they are the first of their people to accomplish something, but Mormons are "a highly persecuted American minority group" that doesn't get recognized.

http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/286809/wrong-kind-minority-mona-charen

"County after county drove the Mormons out, sometimes threatening to kill even the children if they did not evacuate, culminating, in 1838, in an “extermination order” issued by Gov. Lilburn Boggs. Instructing the state militia, Boggs wrote, “The Mormons must be treated as enemies, and must be exterminated or driven from the state if necessary for the public peace — their outrages are beyond all description.” Thousands of Mormons were forced to flee, some with just the clothes on their backs, in the dead of winter. Illinois offered sanctuary for a time, but it was in that state that the religion’s founder, Joseph Smith, was imprisoned and murdered by a mob."

How many Mormons were massacred as a result of the extermination order?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missouri_Executive_Order_44
"While the order is often referred to as the "Mormon Extermination Order" due to the phrasing used by Boggs, relatively few people were killed as a direct result of its issuance."

The Mormons complain that they are a minority group and they continue to remind everyone of the extermination order but it was troubling to me that the article had no mention of the American Indian.

There was no mention in the article about the 1862 Minnesota extermination order against the Sioux, or of the largest mass hanging in the history of the United States.

Words of Governor Alexander Ramsey
"The Sioux Indians of Minnesota must be exterminated or driven forever beyond the borders of the state."
http://books.google.com/books?id=9CVFAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA12&dq=%22The+Sioux+Indians+of+Minnesota+must+be+exterminated+or+driven+forever+beyond+the+borders+of+the+state.%22&hl=en&sa=X&ei=1FT_TqW5A8GWgwf97dGqBg&ved=0CDYQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=%22The%20Sioux%20Indians%20of%20Minnesota%20must%20be%20exterminated%20or%20driven%20forever%20beyond%20the%20borders%20of%20the%20state.%22&f=false

There was no mention of the Bear River massacre of 1863, an event that is possibly the largest single massacre in the western expansion of the U.S., or of the Sand Creek massacre of 1864.

The article came out one day after the 121st anniversary of the Wounded Knee Massacre without mentioning that either.

More about Wounded Knee:
http://64.38.12.138/News/2011/004085.asp

The Mormons never experienced anything like the American Indians have. And aren't America's indigenous people who the Book of Mormon is supposed to be for? But Mormons do like to complain that they are a minority that gets no respect. Have you ever seen Mormons praise the accomplishments of American Indians that are not Mormon? Why don't Mormons complain that the "Lamanites" are blossoming as the rose and need to be recognized?

Just this month a nomination for a federal judge was rejected. He would have been the only American Indian to currently serve on the federal bench, out of a total of 875 federal judgeships. He also would have been only the third Native American in history to secure a federal judgeship.

http://indiancountrytodaymedianetwork.com/2011/12/22/white-house-laments-gop%e2%80%99s-mikkanen-rejection-69152

In the minority world of the Mormons, they think they are the only ones.

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Posted by: forbiddencokedrinker ( )
Date: December 31, 2011 02:56PM

It get's better. Governor Bogs was actually a decent statesman who was bending over backwards to try to keep the peace in Missouri. The fighting between the "mobs" and peaceful Mormons, actually started when the Danites started to burn out the farms of non-Mormons, because it was felt that the non-Mormons living in their area were a bad influence on the members of the church. The so called mobs that persecuted the Mormons were more often then not, well regulated militia trying to keep the peace, or vigilantes who banded together to seek revenge for the loss of their homes.

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Posted by: elee ( )
Date: December 31, 2011 03:06PM

When it comes to discussing their "persecution", you'd think the Extermination Order was issued last year. Mormons either cannot or will not get over it.

But when it comes to confronting the white washed history of the early church promulgated by the modern church, well then, that's all behind us. History even! They can't be held accountable for THAT!

ROFL! Mormons are pathetic.

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Posted by: Cheryl ( )
Date: December 31, 2011 03:10PM

That was a very long time ago. They need to get over it.

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Posted by: Quoth the Raven "Nevermo" ( )
Date: December 31, 2011 03:13PM

It just goes to show that mormons have always had the knack for pissing people off. and then whining when people react.

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Posted by: adoylelb ( )
Date: December 31, 2011 05:02PM

That's true, they pull out the persecution card the moment someone disagrees with them, or they managed to piss people off. After all, people don't like assholes, and assholes are found in all aspects of humanity, religion is no exception.

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Posted by: thedesertrat1 ( )
Date: December 31, 2011 04:17PM

When in doubt shuffle the deck then play the persecution card!!!

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Posted by: CA girl ( )
Date: December 31, 2011 05:04PM

Didn't Sidney Rigdon use the word "exterminate" first? The same year Governor Boggs issued his order, the previous Fourth of July Sidney gave a speech talking about a war of extermination upon those who persecute Mormons.

Anyone have a link? I lost that one when my computer crashed a few months ago.

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Posted by: michaelm (not logged in) ( )
Date: December 31, 2011 06:47PM

An LDS institute manual talks about it.

http://institute.lds.org/manuals/church-history-institute-student-manual/chft-11-15-15.asp

"Sidney Rigdon’s Independence Day speech in 1838 added more fuel to the Mormon-Gentile conflict. As the Saints in Far West celebrated the nation’s birthday and laid the cornerstones of the temple, Sidney Rigdon’s oratory whipped them into high emotion. He thundered out the Saints’ own declaration of independence from any further mob violence or illegal activity. He warned potential mobs that the Church would no longer meekly bear persecution but would defend itself to the death. “It shall be between us and them a war of extermination, for we will follow them, till the last drop of their blood is spilled, or else they will have to exterminate us.” 22 Copies of this inflammatory speech were imprudently published and circulated. Some copies reached the hands of Missouri officials and eventually provided the basis for charges of treason and violence against the Saints. 23"

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Posted by: helemon ( )
Date: December 31, 2011 08:34PM

From what I have read, in every instance they pretty much deserved what was done to them and had done worse to the people around them. Why don't the Amish have a similar history of being run off the land wherever they settled?

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Posted by: Mia ( )
Date: December 31, 2011 07:45PM

The only people who ever persecuted me for being a mormon, were the Mormons.

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