More news on haplogroup Q,



http://www.physorg.com/news/2012-01-genetic-footprints-africa.html

..."At this level of resolution we can see the connections more clearly," Schurr said.

Looking at the Y chromosome DNA, the researchers found a unique mutation shared by Native Americans and southern Altaians in the lineage known as Q.

"This is also true from the mitochondrial side," Schurr said. "We find forms of haplogroups C and D in southern Altaians and D in northern Altaians that look like some of the founder types that arose in North America, although the northern Altaians appeared more distantly related to Native Americans."

Calculating how long the mutations they noted took to arise, Schurr's team estimated that the southern Altaian lineage diverged genetically from the Native American lineage 13,000 to 14,000 years ago, a timing scenario that aligns with the idea of people moving into the Americas from Siberia between 15,000 and 20,000 years ago....

Who are you going to believe, prophets of God like Joseph Smith, Brigham Young and Warren Jeffs, or a bunch of know-it-all, so-called "scientists?"

well to begin with joseph smith was NOT a prophet he was a liar and a poligimist twat so i believe in science which has real truth and can prove there point

And sometime after 435 AD they ran into the Lamanites, who had been confined to a tiny part of the continent for over 1000 years, and obliterated them along with all traces that they had ever existed.

And all their knowledge of metal working and writing had disappeared.

Remains of those with the middle east DNA also vanished. And the more than dozen cities which were dramatically destroyed in a single three-day period around 33AD--all vanished too.

I mean, the Altaians destroyed the destroyed cities and uncovered the remains just to re-destroy them.

They should teach us a lot about demolition, refuse management and interment.

Thanks - I have a TBM scientist friend who is really struggling with stuff like this. I like having things to discuss with him. Because he's wavering about the church and every little bit of cog-dis helps.

CA Girl, what's his area of specialty? Let's see what we can do to help you help him.