In response to my request to have my name removed. In yet another example of complete arrogance he proceeds to tell me "as you already know, this decision is a mistake, and you will only compound problems resulting from mistakes of the past. This decision will not bring you or your family happiness but will only increase sorrow for yourself and your family."
I'm fuming. Just when I thought I'd got a handle on how ignorant and arrogant these MoRons are another one goes and surprises me.
Like he has any idea of what my future holds snd to the contary, ever since deciding to leave the church my life has gotten continually better.
On the positive side, he's agreed not to contact me anymore and has completed the paperwork and forwarded it to the SP. All only 2 weeks after I'd originally sent my email request to SL.

He must have a peep stone

Mormons are so stuck living in their fantasy past and future that they have NO IDEA what year or century we are living in. Forget that idiot's "prophesy" - they love to predict everyone else's future downfall. If he is so good at predicting the future, then how come he isn't the #1 competitor for richest man in the world already? He's just a pompous, power-hungry nobody who takes his "calling" to be your religulous overlord way too seriously.

I would be beyond mad if I were you.

Mormons are so brainwashed it is disgusting. I just got off the phone with my dad...he went to my cousin's mission homecoming yesterday. The morg. to my dismay sounds strong and brainwashed still.

If I were you I would write some smug reply incorporating your findings and what lead you out of the church. Let him know that his definition of happiness is not yours. But, that's just what I would do;)

Consider it a parting gift to remember how glad you are to be done.

years from now it will be a great conversation piece.

Or send a letter to the editor and quote him, just to show how the LDS church uses threats and manipulation to keep members in.

If I'm not mistaken, I believe it is against the law for him to condemn you that way.

How so?

Once you officially state your intent to resign, they have to leave you alone. The words of that a$$hat bishop could be considered harassment of an ex-member.

You bet he "agreed" to no more contact...it's the law.

Aren't you glad to leave an organization with leaders like that creepy guy?

Mormons think they know best -- don't give them that power.

You might want to consider instead of your "...request to have my name removed...," Just give them "notice" you've resigned. The rest is internal stuff on their end.

You don't need their permission, you're already out!



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WHen I received my letter informing me that my name had been removed from the records, I framed it, and hung it on my I Love Me wall in the office.

Dear (whatever his title-free name is),

Whatta ya say we check in after a few years to see which of us is happier?

Tell him he is entitled to his opinion and you are entitled to yours. In the end they are opinions. Time will tell if you are happy or unhappy with the decision, at some point in the future you can let him know how you are doing...

Keep it and in a few years write him a note about how well you and your family are doing, how much happier you are, how you have more time and money for your family......

and how NONE of his dire predictions have come to pass.

This bish has no basis for his "opinion" beyond fanaticism. I don't think he has a right to say it out loud to anyone. Given half a chance I'd call him on it.

Belperboy Wrote:
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> proceeds to tell me "as you already know, this
> decision is a mistake, and you will only compound
> problems resulting from mistakes of the past. This
> decision will not bring you or your family
> happiness but will only increase sorrow for
> yourself and your family."
> I'm fuming.


I would be too.

It makes me angry just reading about it... and I'm a nevermo.

But you sort of just have laugh. I mean, what a complete case of arrogance and self-delusion he has. He's throwing a wee trantrum because you have the nerve to not kiss his ass!

He is pissed off because you did what he does not have the balls to do.

Can't decide whether it would be a waste of time to write him back telling him what a dick he is. My wife has already decided she wants out too. A week or so after I resigned my membership the RS started love bombing her, inviting her out for lunch etc. she thought it was a ridulous contrast to the attention she has received before.
I still owe the bishop a mouthful for basically trying to convince my wife it might be best to leave me as I was inactive at the time.

Congratulations on your wife wanting out too, that is huge.

This is what I would do in your situation: Do nothing. In a week or two ask him if he had been notified that you have resigned. Leave him with the impression that you never received/read the letter. He wants you to get indignant, don't give him the satisfaction.

I really like this idea, pretending not to have received his stupid insults at all. :)

If you are not with us,,you are against us!!! It seems that anyone who chooses their own life and lifestyle besides mormonism is wrong. I have been told that many times. Kinda proud of it myself. Maybe you should send him a reply thanking him for his advice.

I would tell him to save his pearls of wisdom for an actual church member, because you yourself are not a member.

That letter could only be written by a cult leader. If anyone ever says "Mormonism is not a cult" show them that letter.

I have been out of the church for almost a year and I cannot begin to tell you how much better it gets as time goes on. I have never had second thoughts about it. It was the absolute best decision I have ever made. More so than having my husband or kids......because it made me value them so much more. My love for my family has grown 10 fold and I will always be greatful for the pain of leaving because it taught me the value of what love is all about.

It would be a waste of time to try and say anything to him. He's stuck in his mindset, so anything you said would just get a, "That's so sad," reply from him. It's annoying, but unfortunately you can't change how he thinks.

I agree that it's just a great reminder for you, so that you can remember why you left and that it was a good thing to do.

Belperboy,

This sounds soooooo similar to what happened to my husband and I when we announced to our stake president that we were "taking a break" from church.

One of the stake counselors actually told my husband that he KNEW that we thought this would make our lives happier and easier, but IN FACT, it would be just the opposite. Our lives would become harder and more unhappy.

I am so very pleased to report, that his "so-called" prophesy has been the complete opposite of what has happened.

Our relationship with our chilren has improved 150%! They are all adults now and we absolutely love spending time with them!

My husband and I are probably the happiest we have been in years. Our relationship has improved 150%. We love our lives!!!

Living well is always the best revenge! I'm still friends with a few TBM friends and I make sure everyone knows how wonderful my life has become!

Ignore the ignoramus! He's a sad, sad sack!

oh ya, typical, especially in the past. You are reneging on your sacred commitments and covenants and that, in their view, is not a recipe for happiness.

But, of course, it's only his opinion. Has absolutely nothing to do with you. It's his belief, not yours.
You can't change other people, so in the spirit of peace of mind, leave his opinions with him. They are only his, after all.
We are all entitled to our opinions! :-)

I think you should respond...

"I am not a member anymore and request no further contact."

the letter of resignation should be send to ALL concerned, not just SL; Bp, SP, & SL.

If your communication included a phrase similar to "only future communication is Limited to verification of fulfillment of this request", they are Guilty of Harassment.

"as you already know, this decision is a mistake,"

Well if you didn't "already know" that then the guy is totally wrong. Let him know he was wrong. Suggest that he seems to adamantly believe and expound things that are wrong. Suggest to him that this failing might extend to his testimony.