Just another example of unqualified people put in leadership positions. In other churches, the leadership has to go thru training in order to take on leadership roles. In TSCC, your local plumber can be your bishop. Is that really someone you want to tell your most intimate details to? Or even worse, go to for advice on critical issues?
I worked at a place once and my boss was either in the bishopric or stake presidency, I forget which, but he was telling me and another co-worker about a man and a woman in the ward, both married to other spouses, that were having an affair.
They held some kind of bishop court for them and he said they both denied it. Ok, that should be it, right? But no! He said they had to work on them for hours before they finally broke down and admitted they were having a sexual affair.
Ok, THAT should be it, right? Oh, no. Then he said they worked on them until they got out of them what sexual positions they had used. WTF?!
Then you have to get enjoyment from those things vicariously, right? The pathology of this kind of behavior is very clear. To anyone not knee-deep in it, that is.
I would say that such a question is evidence right there that your bishop looks at hard-core porn. I mean, cmon, how else would he think to even ask that question?
I would have left the room on that note. But not without calling him a dirty pig. I don't know why, but a bishop has never questioned me about anything to do with sex. I must give off that don't even think of going there attitude. I made a decision in high school that my sex life wasn't anyone's business, especially people at church. I heard all the gossip about other people, I wasn't about to let that happen. I always told my kids to never talk about sex with a bishop.
As a new convert, I was taken into the bedroom of the 60+ stake president and sat down on the bed to "confess" more and more details. I was 28.
When he asked me if I unhooked my bra or my boyfriend did, I asked him why he wanted to know. He said it was to "discover" culpability. This was baffling to me because what did it matter if you both confessed?
I felt stupid and naive after a few visits while his patient wife sat in the living room. (Why wasn't SHE in the bedroom so I could have a regular chair instead of sitting on the bed.
I've always wondered if he was preparing to ask me to show him something, like a demonstration....
Mormonism is a small world and a few years later, in another state, his niece became a friend of mine. I told her about my experience with her uncle and she said, "That sounds like Uncle Ken all right."
Apparently sexual titillation via the confessional approach is well-tolerated in Mormonism. Perverts who take advantage of trusted positions are NOT disciplined and vulnerable are NOT protected. This grooming must stop!
I didn't know trolls were on this site. Thanks paylayale, for being so good at what you do. Please suck my ex-bishop's dick. Enjoy the taste of mormon priesthood. You'll never understand, because you never were a brainwashed mormon.
Part of the core of Mormonism (as with any cult) is the total subjugation of the member to the cult. Therefore it is standard procedure to elicit maximum humiliation of any penitent member during confession. This reinforces the power that the cult leader has over the member's being. This furthers the process of breaking down the personality of the member and reorganizing it with the cult as the most important thing--more important than any feeling of well-being or of any extra-cult ideas of morality. The cult must be above anything else.
Many exmos have told here of the probing for details by a bishop or disciplinary council during the process. It is explained by saying that the repentance process requires remorse and that the remorse has to be intense. Therefore my making the penitent member feel really horrible, they are aiding the repentance process. But mostly they are establishing that they hold authority over every part of your being.