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Posted by: sam ( )
Date: February 23, 2012 10:14PM

I am curious--when did you take off your garments during the day? Did you wear them both day and night? How extreme were you with this? I always hated garments and (even when I was TBM) didn't ever wear garments when I worked in the yard or lounged around the house. I often just wore regular undies. As I started to doubt, I often didn't wear garments to work or other places. It just felt good to not have them on.

When did you decide to not wear garments anymore? After your resigned or before?

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Posted by: Whiskey_Tango ( )
Date: February 23, 2012 10:46PM

I never went on a mission so I did not have the pleasure of garments until the ex and I were sealed in the Manti temple one year after the civil marriage. I was freaked out by the whole thing and only wore them for about two years after...I started looking for any reason to stop wearing them and then started sleeping in Boxers because it was to "hot" at night. After six months I started buying Hanes boxers and hiding them from my spouse. She caught me...It was like I was looking at porn or something. I tried to wear them for another year. After a total of three years I never wore them again. I hated them from the git go and once I had the balls to stop wearing them I never wore them again. I even wore my boxers to the temple.

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Posted by: itsallclear ( )
Date: February 23, 2012 10:51PM

For the first few months I was very careful about making sure they were put on as soon as possible after showering (even made sure they weren't on the floor *sigh*). For awhile I wore them while working out, but eventually stopped doing that and just made sure I put them back on afterwards. I was one of those "bad kids" that bought their garments a little small so that some of the more cottony bottoms went only a bit lower then mid-thigh.

Right around the time I was learning all the disturbing history facts about the church, I decided to stop wearing my garments and have only worn the bottoms once since then (when I ran out of underwear and was late for work). I do miss not having to worry about underwear lines across my butt, but I'd say that's a small price to pay for knowing the truth.

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Posted by: Naomi ( )
Date: February 23, 2012 10:54PM

At the time, I honestly thought wearing garments was a privilege, not an obligation. You can't wear them till you go to the temple, you have to have a current temple recommend to purchase them, so I thought you had to be temple worthy to be allowed to wear them. When I stopped believing in Joseph Smith and the Book of Mormon, I thought that according to their standards I was no longer worthy to partake of the sacrament or to wear garments. Faith is clearly a requirement for a temple recommend, and I thought the temple recommend was a requirement for wearing garments. Apparently that's not how it really works...

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Posted by: bingoe4 ( )
Date: February 23, 2012 11:10PM

I hated them, but almost always wore them. I even would wear them to the beach and change at public bathroom. I think I was trying really hard to live like I believed.

I took them off the first day I left the church. I was so glad not to believe.

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Posted by: drjekyll ( )
Date: February 23, 2012 11:50PM

I wore them as underwear during the day and as pijamas at night, so yes, day and night. If I was feeling really cold at night, I'd wear pijamas as well, if I was feeling really hot at night, I'd take off the shirt, but I did feel like I was kind of bending the rules of garment use. I didn't wear them if I was going to the lake, beach, etc for swimming, but if I knew that I wasn't going swimming at these places then I'd go wearing them under long shorts and my t-shirt. I was pretty much a hardcore TBM until "miraculously" my eyes were opened by reading early LDS documents for myself and accounts of people living and dealing with the LDS Church in its early days ("member" and "non-member" individuals).

P.S. I hate those two terms, "member" "non-member", nowadays and that's why I put them in quotes. That is the pair of terms that best personifies, in my opinion, the cult mentality that dominates Mormonism. EVERYTHING was about member vs. non-member when I was growing up. Whenever I heard someone in the LDS Church compliment someone or something that did not originate inside the LDS Church they would qualify it with... "Even though he/she is not a member"... they actually did something good. Or "I know that the Church doesn't actually teach this but it is true" (when quoting some kind of scientific discovery that non-members were involved in). And even worse is when there are LDS professional sports stars... all my TBM family talks about is basketball and being from Sacramento, now its all about Jimmer Jimmer Jimmer Jimmer, Jimmer this, Jimmer that. My BIL is particularly prone to vomitting Jimmer praise all day long, which means I have to listen to Jimmer chants from all of my and nephews since even the nephews of the other BILs and brothers cannot be out done in Jimmer worship/facts when they are all together, which means it is on big TBM Jimmer vomit fest at every family gathering. Ooops, this P.S. doesn't have anything to do with garments. Sorry for going off topic! But I will say one last thing, when it was first announced that Jimmer Fredette would go to the Sacramento Kings the atmosphere at the family gatherings was like it was God's way of saying, I'm sorry that I can't get the Second Coming show on the road just yet, so I am sending the Jimmer Fredette show to Sacramento as a consolation to the faithful saints out there, since it'll just be a matter of time before your local stakes can book him for a host of youth firesides (that will be totally infiltrated and "f"-ed up by TBM dads/Kings Fans/Sport Freaks to the chagrin of the youths who just want a little slice of the pie for themselves and their activities where they aren't under the watchful/judgmental/domineering eye of TBM dads).

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Posted by: forbiddencokedrinker ( )
Date: February 23, 2012 11:51PM

I am so happy to be free of garments. Because I am all alone in my house tonight, I am going to sleep a hundred percent nude. In fact, I am naked as I right this sentence, right now.

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Posted by: xombie ( )
Date: February 24, 2012 12:58AM

i stopped after i left school. no longer felt i needed to "fit in" anymore. male garments weren't much an issue for me but man they were expensive and of lousy quality. plus they're not sexy. i sleep nearly naked now, my wife the same.

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Posted by: Lethbridge Reprobate ( )
Date: February 24, 2012 01:09AM

My Dad always wore regular underwear on visits to his doctor...otherwise, it was magic underwear 24/7.

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Posted by: djmaciii ( )
Date: February 24, 2012 01:15AM

In the summer when it was hot my dad would wear his around the house. They were soiled with holes in them, utterly disgusting. Must be the reason I have gone comando for the last 20 years.

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Posted by: GNPE ( )
Date: February 24, 2012 01:23AM

'tough call'for a Nudist.

g's are one of those things that ChurchCo hasn't diluted; we think we know the reason why, but like all things Mo, we're not 100% certain.

Nudism is a Wholesome activity; however, some nudists are swingers, I have No Idea how many. Most aanr parks don't allow sex outdoors or in public areas of their parks....

that said, DW (now ex) & I did 'sneak' a few times. Lying out in the sun on a warm day... when you're 'in the mood' ... Well, you know the rest :-)

Outdoors... is / was ALWAYS my fav place.

just a sec; were we talking about Gs or sex? I forgot.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/24/2012 01:24AM by guynoirprivateeye.

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Posted by: jan ( )
Date: February 24, 2012 01:42AM

I cringe to remember that I wore the nasty things 24/7. In Arizona. In 110+ heat.

Oddly, I don't remember when I took them off for the last time and consigned them to the trash. Hmmm, one would think that would have been more memorable.

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Posted by: abacab08 ( )
Date: February 24, 2012 10:32AM

Id only wear em for the exwife to make her happy. Id say only on Sundays. Was 24/7 until I learned about masons and mormons, then slowly tailed off to only Sunday. I can usually get home from work and toss clothes in hamper without her noticing I hadnt worn them.

Boy was I a sucker

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Posted by: CL2 ( )
Date: February 24, 2012 10:37AM

On my honeymoon in Hawaii. I didn't take off my garments until I found this board (referred to it by my exmo therapist some 6 or 7 years ago for this very reason). I had been inactive for at least 10 years and even my (soon to be, but inactive then) TBM daughter asked me why I still wore them. It took me until this past year or so to throw them out.

I definitely exercised in them until one day one of the prior bishops stopped me to talk while I was out walking one day and he told me I didn't need to wear garments while exercising (I had on a white t-shirt) and that he didn't. I still wore them while exercising and yard work.

I have always been a "sweater" as are most of my family--and to have those Gs on was pure torture.



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Posted by: SarahDee ( )
Date: February 24, 2012 10:43AM

I stopped wearing them a few months into our little "discovery journey." The first day made me uncomfortable - I put them back on for at least a week. The second time, it stuck. I've stuffed them all in a sack and tucked them in the corner of my closet. Just in case Jesus comes to my house tomorrow to tell me to put them back on.

It took my husband a little longer. Now he wears briefs and undershirts - the same thing he did before he got garments. I am loving the change. My husband is hot. Back on topic, though...

I was pretty staunchy about wearing them. I strove for obedience when I was committed. I was a judgmental a-hole about those who weren't wearing theirs.

Never extreme about it, though - sex, swimming days, exercising - I didn't have any guilt about not wearing them.

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Posted by: Glo ( )
Date: February 24, 2012 10:52AM

Never liked them and wore them as little as possible.
Living in So. California with 112F summers made them impractical and idiotic.

Even as a TBM, common sense told me that there was no magical protection in them.
Mormons get hurt emotionally and physically, just like everyone else. Sometimes more.

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Posted by: rutabaga ( )
Date: February 24, 2012 01:51PM

i was always pretty casual about wearing garmies. Any excuse to leave them off, backpack trip, beach, golf, yard work, whatever.

Then I found out about the origins of garmies and the origin of the endowment/polygamy. I quit going to the temple. Then I decided I wasn't going to be a hypocrite and over the course of a year or so eased out of garmies and into civilian underwear.

The garmies vacationed in the closet for a few months and soon found themselves in the dumpster. Holy markings intact.

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Posted by: SusieQ#1 ( )
Date: February 24, 2012 02:05PM

Never could wear them at night. For some reason, I would take them off in my sleep and find them around the bed or room.
When I was asked specifically, I told the interviewer and they never said a word. Always had a TR.
I also had problems with the lace irritating my skin and had them made without lace and to fit my body.

I came from an era when girls wore an "undershirt" when young, and a petticoat or slip or camisole when older. So, the garment wasn't that hard to get used to. The main problem is that they never fit well. I did OK with them during the day when they were made of the Bemberg fabric.

I understood the specific religious meaning of the symbols in them, but didn't quite make sense to me as it seemed too Old Testament Law to me. If Christ came to fulfill the law, why was the Mormon Church using symbols in their clothing like that. I thought it was odd, but I went along with it.
I knew they were not "magic" or any other silly claim. They were just fabric. The only protection they held was the placebo affect, if one believed by faith in the meanings. Nothing more.

Never ever wore them when they could be seen, mocked, or ridiculed. Washed and dried them out of public view. Originally wore the one piece as there were no others available.

Never wore them for doctor visits, medical tests, to try on clothing in a store, swimming, or any sport that required a uniform of some sort where they could be seen etc. Never wore them without regular clothing over them, around the house.

They were not made to fit the variety of women's bodies, that's for sure. Sometimes they were well made, others not.

In my mind, they were are are totally unnecessary.

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Posted by: apikoros ( )
Date: February 24, 2012 05:02PM

First answer: Whenever possible!

Second answer: No. Especially not at night!

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Posted by: badseed ( )
Date: February 24, 2012 05:05PM

not during sex of course


or at the beach of boating and the like.....


or working out



but pretty much the rest of the time.

Yard work, yes.



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Posted by: enoughenoch19 ( )
Date: February 24, 2012 05:07PM

I never did have to wear garmies.......I'm too much of a sinner! (YESSS) - I always wanted to ask "Isn't summer bad enough in Utah without having to wear another layer?" Aren't they hot? (I mean that in the real sense of the work hot since I know they are not the other kind of hot.)

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Posted by: ginger ( )
Date: February 24, 2012 05:13PM

I never wore them either since I never went through the temple. When my exmo dad used to be TBM, he only wore them in the winter because they kept him warm. We live in Utah. He never wore them in the summer.

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Posted by: xombie ( )
Date: February 24, 2012 05:20PM

i actually wore them the first time i fornicated... my girlfriend wondered why i was wearing all white undies. after that i just threw them away.

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