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Posted by: anubis ( )
Date: March 26, 2012 01:10PM


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Posted by: Holy the Ghost ( )
Date: March 26, 2012 01:16PM

He's an authentic academic, right?
Is he publishing this in Deseret news because the peer reviewd journals rejected it?

While I'm obviously being sarcastic here, there is a point to my sarcasm. It speaks to where this academic places the bar of evidence. Not very high...

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Posted by: lillium ( )
Date: March 26, 2012 01:21PM

Ewwww that's the first time I've seen a photo of him. Once again, ewwwww.

He used their names so it must be a true story.

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Posted by: Makurosu ( )
Date: March 26, 2012 01:43PM


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Posted by: bignevermo ( )
Date: March 26, 2012 01:35PM

to Don!! anecdotal "evidence" isnt evidence at all except to the person living it...and even then...who knows...:)
is the CK refered to as heaven?? i thought it was just the CK or the two Tk's!! just sayin!



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Posted by: foundoubt ( )
Date: March 26, 2012 01:36PM

The only problem with this story is that it is not very complete. I have read it three times, and every time I'm left thinking, "Who the hell is Sarah?"



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Posted by: bignevermo ( )
Date: March 26, 2012 01:36PM


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Posted by: foundoubt ( )
Date: March 26, 2012 01:37PM

but it says that it is used with permission of both Ken and his wife, Debbie. What is he, a polyg?



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Posted by: bignevermo ( )
Date: March 26, 2012 01:39PM

sounds like their child(Ken and Debbie's)



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Posted by: foundoubt ( )
Date: March 26, 2012 01:40PM

its all so confusing to me. I just loose interest when that happens. My faith wasn't promoted, sorry Dan.

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Posted by: Tall Man, Short Hiar ( )
Date: March 26, 2012 01:47PM

Why is it that most of the miraculous stories we hear only get told after all the witnesses are dead?

1. Kerie dies and appears to Sarah
2. Sarah dies and appears to Don
3. Don dies
4. Now it's time to tell the story


BTW, the link provided takes you to page two of the article. Here's the link to page one: http://www.deseretnews.com/article/765555334/Life-after-death-is-a-joyful-fact.html?pg=1

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Posted by: foundoubt ( )
Date: March 26, 2012 01:50PM

There it is! Still, not feeling it though.

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Posted by: Dave the Atheist ( )
Date: March 26, 2012 02:43PM

Looks like we need some comments from exmos to counter all the momos who are bearing their testimonkeys.

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Posted by: Dave the Atheist ( )
Date: March 26, 2012 02:43PM


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Posted by: Chicken'n'Backpacks ( )
Date: March 26, 2012 03:28PM

Look at the bright side: no mention of Joseph Smith, secret handshakes and temple names or the CK, just Heaven.....

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Posted by: SpongeBob SquareGarments ( )
Date: March 26, 2012 03:32PM

Chicken'n'Backpacks Wrote:
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> Look at the bright side: no mention of Joseph
> Smith, secret handshakes and temple names or the
> CK, just Heaven.....


yeah, she could have said she got tripped up on the second handshake and was condemned to walk the earth for eternity.



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Posted by: GNPE ( )
Date: March 26, 2012 03:37PM

did he read / adapt this from 'Especially For Mormons'?

'if only' they knew how these things Now Cheapen the faith of others; it's like they've been sifting thru refuse at the city landfill.

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Posted by: Anubis ( )
Date: March 26, 2012 06:02PM

Topping for after hours crew.

This reminded me of the song "heard from a friend who heard it friend who heard from another you were messin around."

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Posted by: ronas ( )
Date: March 26, 2012 06:07PM

So anecdotal stories are sufficient to proclaim something a fact?

Based on that criteria, there sure are a lot of contradictory facts...

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Posted by: jessie ( )
Date: March 26, 2012 06:34PM

I dont know what the purpose of that story was but all I got from it was, 3 people had to die so you could tell a story?

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Posted by: angsty ( )
Date: March 26, 2012 07:03PM

His desnews articles seem to be written for an unbelievably uncritical audience-- kind of like most conference addresses.

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Posted by: pkdfan2 ( )
Date: March 26, 2012 08:39PM


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Posted by: Major Bidamon ( )
Date: March 26, 2012 10:17PM

when my DW tells me sappy stories like this, I tell her about the story (I think Hitchen's relates it in God is Not Great) of the guy who dies and all that happens on the "other side" is he plays golf with his friend (who is not dead btw) ... the doctors are able to bring him back.

Conclusion: Golf is true.

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Posted by: dagny ( )
Date: March 26, 2012 10:41PM

No more worrying about how our hairdos will hold up as we travel though time and space!

Either that or we will have Celestial curling irons to tote along, with our make up so we look beautiful (yet mature!).

Here's the bad news. Apparently we will look "mature" whatever that is supposed to imply.

Apparently that factory in heaven that manufactures glowing fabric that travels though space without wear and tear is still in business.

Or....was she naked! Now we're getting somewhere!

Funny how he doesn't seem to know that "communicated with me in my mind" is code for I MADE IT UP.

If he ever had any credibility in my view, he doesn't now. There are ZERO critical thinking skills in that pretty head, folks.

Here's the quote from the article that is so enlightening:

"She was all aglow, and it looked as if light was emanating from her, not just from around her; her entire being was glowing. Her hair was long and curled and she looked beautiful and mature. She didn't talk out loud, but she communicated with me in a clear voice in my mind."



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