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Posted by: Chicken'n'Backpacks ( )
Date: September 06, 2012 03:31PM

I think he said tonight or tomorrow night he's having an "Everything you wanted to ask about mormon's" TV show, where I guess he's going to debunk rumors about the temple and "the" South Park episode, etc.

Since he's a national figure, and spent a large chunk of today's radio show talking about how he's come to his convictions (implying both political and religious) after deep study and looking for the truth, I wonder how big a bucket of whitewash he'll have, and/or how tight his blindfold of ignorance will be.

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Posted by: hope ( )
Date: September 06, 2012 03:56PM

Listening to that man go off pretending like he believes when you and I and everyone else knows he doesn't could be cause for *ad nauseum.* I really don't like that man.

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Posted by: justrob ( )
Date: September 07, 2012 10:36PM

I hate Glen Beck... BUT that man believes.

I dunno why. I dunno if he always did. But he believes it fully.

I know one of the mormon musicians he's recently hired, and the way they talk you'd think that god had personally asked them to bring about the 2nd coming.

He has a saviour complex. He thinks he a frickin' prophet, & wants to lead christianity to the aid of Israel and the bringing about of the 2nd coming.

The dude scares me.

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Posted by: helamonster ( )
Date: September 06, 2012 03:59PM

(and I frequently have doubts about how "former" his addictions are...) so he's never dealt with his issues or even acknowledged them.

It's all too evident in the drivel he spews on his shows.

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Posted by: popolvuh ( )
Date: September 06, 2012 04:19PM

You're just saying that because you're a terrorist/islamofascist/whitehating/socialist/unamerican/progressivefascist/antiamerican/liberalfascist/traitor/communist/terroristfascist fascist aren't you? Busted...

I just reread Ian Kershaw's massive biography of Hitler. One of his central ideas is that Hitler wasn't some sort of demon who possessed the good people of Germany. Instead, Germany 'yearned' for a Hitler; he said what many wanted to hear, he was just the right man at the right time for the right job. And a big part of that job was to make germans feel special, superior, and surrounded and infiltrated by evil enemies that needed to be destroyed.

Beck seems to appeal to a great yearning among many people in this country; he's clearly a sly opportunist who has captured one of the more sinister zietgeists of our time. Its hard to tell what he really thinks and believes, I doubt it concerns him too much in any case. He's doing pretty well selling whatever it is he's selling.

In morg terms, I think he's clearly in the Skousen McConky ET Benson school and if the morg hadn't decided to try and mainstream/blandize itself, I think he'd be much more influential in an official morgish sense. He certainly seems to speak to my older TBM relatives who remember all the stuff the church 'no longer teaches'. Isn't it interesting how quickly the morg threatens those on the church's 'left', while remaining relatively silent when it comes to the wingnuts on its 'right'. I wonder if there will be any sort of official response to Beck's special mormon show.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/06/2012 04:20PM by popolvuh.

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Posted by: helamonster ( )
Date: September 06, 2012 04:23PM

Apparently my years in the Army just taught me how to do the most harm to America.

Y'know, now that I think of it, the U.S. military is a bastion of socialism, too!

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Posted by: popolvuh ( )
Date: September 06, 2012 04:25PM

Yur evil, pure pure evil. I raise my arm to the square and I CAST YOU OUT INTO DARKNESS!! Wait, had to use my left hand, right hand is otherwise engaged with the iron rod, better clean up and start again...

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Posted by: helamonster ( )
Date: September 06, 2012 04:27PM

Ain't no darker or "outer" than that.

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Posted by: John_Lyle ( )
Date: September 07, 2012 04:25PM

Read:

Hitler's Willing Executioners by Goldhagen...

His theory is the average German, one way or another, facilitated the Holocaust.

This is the most difficult book I have ever read, mainly because Goldhagen can't write and I think he put more in footnotes than in his text...

In just about every book Deborah Lipstadt has ever written She deals with average German's participation. (possibly excluding the one she wrote about Irving's libel lawsuit)

Nazi Doctors by Jay Robert Lifton is another good book.

Virtually, all these books could be a book about the morg, with Hitler and his minions as the profit, seer & revelator and the rest of the cabinet the GA's...

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Posted by: ambivalent exmo ( )
Date: September 07, 2012 10:38PM


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Posted by: athreehourbore ( )
Date: September 07, 2012 01:26AM

helamonster Wrote:
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> (and I frequently have doubts about how "former"
> his addictions are...) so he's never dealt with
> his issues or even acknowledged them.
>
> It's all too evident in the drivel he spews on his
> shows.

I could not agree more. Did he get treatment for his alcoholism or did he just have a "mighty change of heart?"

Even adult children of alcoholics have some long-lingering issues to deal with. Notice how he doesn't drink Mormonism moderately, but goes to the extremes in its philosophy?

He is probably getting as bored of hearing the usual pablum in church as I was and is reaching out into the more passionate topics The Lord has spoken about (extreme constitutional politics).

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Posted by: atheist&happy:-) ( )
Date: September 06, 2012 04:35PM

It would be rare for any morgbot to "speak evil" of TSCC, even if they knew the truth, BUT Glenn Beck is also on the Premiere Radio Network, a subsidiary of Clear Channel, owned by Bain Capital. He's highly motivated to use not just a bucket of whitewash, but the best, and the most whitewash money can buy.

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Posted by: skeptifem ( )
Date: September 06, 2012 05:15PM

Oh no, that means he is taking a break from his campaign to get a flight attendant fired for not being up to his politeness standards (yes, seriously).

Who cares what he thinks anymore?

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Posted by: brainfrees ( )
Date: September 07, 2012 02:07AM

As predicted, he has a super-basic seminary-age-maybe understanding of TSCC. He butchered the polygamy history. Let me summarize.
-The Mormons were getting exterminated and men killed
-The Mormons were leaving the country to the west and were asked to give up even more men to the battalion because they were soooooo patriotic even after being issued the extermination order
-To avoid extinction and to care for all the single and widowed women polygamy was started in utah to spread the men around
-only 5% of the men were called to practice polygamy for a short time.
-Ended in 1890, so only practiced for a short time
-Men didn't get to pick their plural wives - the church leaders assigned them based on need


God I can't stand him.

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Posted by: baura ( )
Date: September 07, 2012 03:44PM

"If you want to know about Mormonism, ask a Mormon."

If you want to know the TRUTH about Mormonism, ask an EX-Mormon.

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Posted by: justrob ( )
Date: September 07, 2012 10:39PM

a nevermo co-worker asked me tons of questions, including the temple and weird JS/BY teachings.

I told him everything, and showed him references.

Today in front of 2 TBM coworkers he was spouting all that stuff off to them. It was really funny until he pointed them to me and said, "yeah, Rob taught me all that."

They already know I'm exmo... but I tend to use a bit more tact with TBMs, whereas this nevermo was openly mocking them and then passed that buck to me.

I was less than pleased. But I stood my ground & just tried to stifle their anger.

Oh well.

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Posted by: spanner ( )
Date: September 07, 2012 04:22AM

For some reason I just can't imagine him attending a 3-hour block. what callings does he have? It would almost be worth attending a couple of times to see what antics he got up to. Imagine Glenn Beck as your home teacher.

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Posted by: John_Lyle ( )
Date: September 07, 2012 04:28PM

Imagine my dogs running off Glenn Beck when he tried to get near my front door...

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Posted by: idleswell ( )
Date: September 07, 2012 11:38AM

Doesn't every ward have at least one Glenn Beck clone?

The Church is designed to hatch Glenn Becks. Because the Church is founded on salvation through works, more Mormonism is always presumed to be better. Nobody will ever tell a budding Brother Beck, "Excuse me. You might be becoming too fanatical."

Compound the circumstances with an addict's personality and you engender a religious zeal. We had a brother bear a testimony once: "I am addicted to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints." He went on repeating this mantra listing several gospel topics he was proud to be addicted to. Everyone laughs (HaHa), but I thought it was disingenuous to anyone who has ever battled addiction.

Glenn Beck has the manic drive of an addict. I suppose it is better for him to channel his hyperactive energy into the Church. But his overbearing attitude that just exudes stress must harm the mental well-being (testimony?) of those who must deal with him.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/07/2012 11:48AM by idleswell.

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Posted by: John_Lyle ( )
Date: September 07, 2012 04:31PM

There for a minute, I thought you said you had a 'brother bear' at Testimony...

I was going to ask if he was a grizzly or a black bear and if he gave a testimony (guru ruff truuu) or just started mauling the unbelievers..

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Posted by: Been there ( )
Date: September 07, 2012 04:17PM

^

Actually, I think Beck would be the perfect person to represent all the full foolishness of Mormonism.

His presentation could be re-edited for the Internet; It could be taken point-by-point and interlaced with solid, contrary documentation to show how shallow he, and his church, really are.

Bill Maher would be the perfect person to put Beck in his place.

I hope it happens.

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Posted by: AmIWhiteYet? ( )
Date: September 07, 2012 07:51PM


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Posted by: ambivalent exmo ( )
Date: September 07, 2012 10:40PM

Ugh. I can't believe I used to listen, daily!!!!, to this tool.
Oh, the shame & humiliation :(........
But he is his own worst enemy....
Very, very sad..........

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Posted by: John_Lyle ( )
Date: September 09, 2012 04:28PM

I was sitting in a tire shop waiting for them to put tires on my truck. The only seat in the waiting room was right under a TV with Beck ranting on and on. (This is when he was still on TV)

I got up and asked them to change the channel or, at least, turn it down.

They changed the channel. Saved me from having to run to the restroom to puke...

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