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Posted by: almostThere ( )
Date: October 08, 2012 02:42PM

What are Mormonism's biggest doctrinal changes?

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Posted by: cantbsabser ( )
Date: October 08, 2012 02:45PM

please define mormon doctrine since "doctrine" is a very loose term for these mouth peices of shit of god, then maybe we can answer your question. :-)

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Posted by: gentlestrength ( )
Date: October 08, 2012 02:55PM

I have to agree here, doctrine and policy are warped. There is no scripture refuting their bigotry, just whitewashing it out over time. Their doctrines are still bigoted against people with dark skin.

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Posted by: The Oncoming Storm - bc ( )
Date: October 08, 2012 02:46PM

Some that come to mind:

Polygamy/polyandry (both instigating and removing)

Temple ordinances - not in early scripture/revelation. Major changes since where the belief is that the ordinance had been handed down via the masons unchanged from the time of Adam?

Adam/God theory

Blacks & the priesthood

United order (although an argument could be made that the doctrine still allows for it - same with polygamy, but not polyandry)

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Posted by: SusieQ#1 ( )
Date: October 08, 2012 02:47PM

I'm not sure there are any major ones. Most of the changes they make in the LDS Church are about policy.

Their main points about claims of JS and his vision, and the "keys" and tenants remain the same:
Requirements for Baptism
Christ as the head of the church
Ordinances done on earth for living and dead
Eternal Marriage (sealing) done in temples for worthy - the Eternal Family
Temple requirements and interviews (some change in policies over the years)
Word of Wisdom requirements
There are more but those are some of the basic ones that are still unchanged in their essence.

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Posted by: Heresy ( )
Date: October 08, 2012 02:48PM

The move from the trinity to 3 separate Gods in the 1830s. The invention of levels of heaven, garments, temples, priesthood authority. None of that existed when the church was formed.

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Posted by: SusieQ#1 ( )
Date: October 08, 2012 02:55PM

Heresy Wrote:
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> The move from the trinity to 3 separate Gods in
> the 1830s. The invention of levels of heaven,
> garments, temples, priesthood authority. None of
> that existed when the church was formed.


True, however, if I remember correctly, these were instituted by Joseph Smith Jr before he was killed. It was part of how the original church evolved in the first initial years, and part of the reason some called him a "false prophet" and many were excommunicated and then brought back.

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Posted by: taketheredpill ( )
Date: October 08, 2012 02:56PM

Official Doctrine:

What is, or once was official doctrine?

It's very difficult to nail down what is official doctrine in the TSCC. If it becomes unpopular and uncomfortable in society, then a current prophet can trump an prophet from the past.

Richard Packham said "It's like trying to nail Jello to a wall, or catch a greased pig."

Doctrine in the MORG is an organic fluid concept, ever growing, ever moving and ever changing.

Some people have come back to the church after many years and could barley recognize it as the same church.

Biggest doctrinal changes:
1. Polygamy
2. God head, (Son of God) changes in the BoM.
3. Adam-God doctrine.
4. Temple ordinances, ceremony
5. garment usage

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Posted by: onendagus ( )
Date: October 08, 2012 02:59PM

Polygamy hands down. Resulted in JS death, schism in the church, changed peoples lives forever, its effects live on today with the FLDS.

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Posted by: SusieQ#1 ( )
Date: October 08, 2012 03:01PM

According to B Young, the Adam God Theory was taught by JS.
Can anyone confirm that? I don't think it's found in any of his public statements.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/08/2012 03:02PM by SusieQ#1.

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Posted by: Weeder ( )
Date: October 08, 2012 03:08PM

The thing William Law complains about even before Joseph's polygamous ways is Joseph's teachings concerning god ... a real hint of Adam-God there.

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Posted by: weeder ( )
Date: October 08, 2012 03:06PM

Joseph Smith (emphasis mine): "It is the FIRST principle of the Gospel to know for a certainty the Character of God"

1820 Joseph: One (maybe two characters) in heaven (i.e. Lord)
1835 Joseph: Protestant God (i.e. Lectures on Faith)
1840 Joseph: teaching plural gods and Adam-God (Nauvoo Expositor and Brigham Young's comments)
1840 Joseph: Jehovah is NOT Jesus
1850 Endowment House (prior to temple) Actors: Elohiem, Jehovah, JESUS, and Michael
1850 Brigham: Jehovah is NOT Jesus
1853 Brigham: Adam is our God
1900: Adam is our god and we excommunicate those who deny it.
1904: Jehovah == Jesus
1950: Adam God THEORY -- is evil and from the devil
(TSCC is still in the 1950s until the geezers die off)
Present: Jehovah has ALWAYS been Jesus

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Posted by: almostThere ( )
Date: October 08, 2012 03:20PM

Wow... Can you help me find references for these? I'm especially interested in:

1840 Joseph: Jehovah is NOT Jesus
1850 Endowment House (prior to temple) Actors: Elohiem, Jehovah, JESUS, and Michael
1850 Brigham: Jehovah is NOT Jesus
1853 Brigham: Adam is our God
1900: Adam is our god and we excommunicate those who deny it.

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Posted by: SusieQ#1 ( )
Date: October 08, 2012 03:10PM

I don't think the blacks and the priesthood is a change, it's a fulfillment of their prophecy that went something like this: when the rest of the world has an opportunity to hear the gospel, the blacks will be given the same privileges.

Of course, this was long before civil rights for blacks erupted in the 60's -- took them until 1978 to implement it.

Of course, it appears that outside pressure promoted the change probably earlier than they planned.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/08/2012 03:11PM by SusieQ#1.

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Posted by: GNPE ( )
Date: October 08, 2012 03:37PM

Morg will do 'ANYTHING' to keep people/members from focusing on the Basics of Christ-Like living:

Honesty, Kindness, Charity, etc.


those 'Don't need no Fancy Explanations, No Apostles Required.
No PH necessary to invoke - apply them.

All the Apostles in the (friggin) World Can't Change 'em, Can't tweak them, modify them.

Know what I'm talkin' about?

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