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Posted by: giorgios ( )
Date: October 09, 2012 06:04AM

What do I mean by destroying the church? First of all… it’s not Christ’s church! All the good thinks what the cult is doing does not justify the lies to trick people.. I watched the conference 2012 and made the psychological analysis.. As good as possible.. Monson is like an Actor… and the cult is his theater..

I think Henry B. Eyring, Dieter F. Uchtdorf and others in leading positions really believe in the “church”.. I was touched by some speakers.. Truth is independent of an organization.. Satan uses this tactic to make people believe in everything when he can convince people and present 99% truth.. But remember.. The 1% what he is not telling is the dangers part!

The nice blablas in the conference is like the perfume of a prostitute that smells nice.. The perfume is neutral.. Doesn’t have anything to do with the lady.. So is the independent truth that the cult is putting up like that prostitute.. What hypocrisy.. Telling the members to be clean and worthy while deleting all the women in the Joseph smith genealogy records on familysearch.com... only Emma is on the records now!! He was fuc.. This over 30 women the youngest 14 years old and the cult has the balls to talk about avoiding pornography!

(Nothing against prostitutes, better 1million prostitutes than 1 Monson!) So this was just for illustration..

No man would watch pornography.. When he would have a collection of dozens of woman to choose and fuc.. What hypocrisy!! If Monson would tell the members he had a revelation and God told him he should pass his DNS to young virgins in the church.. The members would jump on that and would be proud to have the honor.. Monson fuc.. Their daughters.. It’s so sick!!..

SO IT IS TIME TO DESTROY THE CULT!!
It is possible!! And it will happen, whether the cult likes it or not!! (Smile) Good Leaders will apologize for deceiving the members.. There will be not replacement in the higher positions! We will reveal a plan how to destroy that cult! (We.. means, incredible and very creative group of people.. and you can also all take part in it!) Please do not say things like.. It is not possible.. If for the cult it’s possible with their fictional stories and lies to convince and trick members, how much more we will be successful with the facts!)

If you don’t believe the cult can be destroyed.. Than please don’t hold people back by posting things like.. It’s impossible and so on..! Sit back and enjoy the outcome.. And you will see the cult completely exposed and destroyed :-) but not the good things that members do.. Like helping and serving.. They can do this thing without the cult!!! The dark organizations behind the cult will also be exposed!! Other powerful people are working very successfully on that part.

Remember.. It is just brainwashing members by telling them.. That the “church” cannot be destroyed!! IT CAN AND IT WILL!! Big smile… You don’t just allow a serial killer to continue killing just because you think.. If we catch him, than another will come anyway.. You take care of the crime one by one..

So enjoy the exiting time and see how this large (ok.. not very large, just about 4million active members).. But anyway enjoy the destruction of that cult!

Enjoy the release of so many good cult members of that hypocrite organization)!

So my creative Friends.. Do some brainstorming and bring also your ideas in here! Don’t fight against the cult with negative emotions.. Be happy!

This is not the Church of Jesus Christ of latter day saints (the name is hypocrisy!) it’s just the nice smelling perfume!

Enjoy your journey… in life.. Exiting times are just around the corner!! BIG Smile..

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Posted by: lucky ( )
Date: October 09, 2012 06:13AM

Making sure that ppl get a chance to see videos like these.
MORmONS said it, MORmONS and their MORmON actions speak best for MORmONS and their MORmON cult religion. By their (dumb ass) fruits
ye shall know them ... as MORmONS! This proves it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cuKb2HbiihI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4BQrl4EZ07Y

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wALvdgurB4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YEMX0VooD4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ws4vgihE3Q0



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/09/2012 06:14AM by lucky.

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Posted by: cytokine ( )
Date: October 09, 2012 06:32AM

Agree with lucky.

LET MORMONS EMBARRASS THEMSELVES, then PUBLICIZE, PUBLICIZE, PUBLICIZE. Tell the truth about what Mormons have said and what the LDS Church teaches.

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Posted by: cytokine ( )
Date: October 09, 2012 06:33AM

Posting here is helpful, by the way, because these pages come up in Google searches.

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Posted by: youtuber ( )
Date: October 09, 2012 12:39PM

lucky Wrote:
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> Making sure that ppl get a chance to see videos


This is long but a very effective video for all members to watch: Now at 155,000 views and climbing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ac_fLUHiBw&feature=youtu.be

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Posted by: giorgios ( )
Date: October 09, 2012 12:41PM

thanks.. will watch it today :-)

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Posted by: lucky ( )
Date: October 10, 2012 12:12PM

that is an excellent video

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Posted by: larry john ( )
Date: October 09, 2012 09:11AM

well said man shooting straight from the hip. share some more in future I shall read all your posts...

Larry.....

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Posted by: giorgios ( )
Date: October 09, 2012 12:27PM

Hi Larry. im not so often in here.. but yes i have some thought to post and hope you will enjo it :-)
greetings, giorgios.

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Posted by: AmIWhiteYet? ( )
Date: October 09, 2012 10:08AM

I have an idea! Next conference, you roundup close to 100 men that you strategically place throughout the conference center. At a certain point in the conference (preferably during a hymn when they like to pan over the audience), the men bust out collapsable top hats, bury their heads in them and just start ranting jibberish. The KSL camera people will go ape shit since there's no where in the audience where this won't be seen. What's security going to do? There's a hundred of them they have to quietly, systematically escort off the premises. Most importantly, it raises the obvious question: Why did they have their heads buried in a hat?

EPIC!

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Posted by: giorgios ( )
Date: October 09, 2012 12:05PM

that would be funny! go ahead :-) but just wait.. there is a great plan at work!! step by step guide, how to destroy that cult.. :-)

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Posted by: pigsinzen ( )
Date: October 09, 2012 02:30PM

LMFAO!

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Posted by: Anonymous User ( )
Date: October 09, 2012 10:08AM

What makes you think the Brethren need help...?

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Posted by: Dorothy ( )
Date: October 09, 2012 11:33AM

I'm having a pleasant vision of a flash mob on the public sidewalk outside temple square...at least 100 people, all garbed up in temple costumes, dancing to Lady Ga Ga's Born This Way. I would fly to Salt Lake to participate.

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Posted by: MorMom ( )
Date: October 09, 2012 11:55AM

So would I. Just give me the date and time and I'm there.

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Posted by: giorgios ( )
Date: October 09, 2012 12:06PM

brave.. :-)

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Posted by: forbiddencokedrinker ( )
Date: October 09, 2012 11:44AM

I am calling for a complicated, Wiley Coyote style plan, in order to bring about the fall of the church. I haven't worked out all the details yet, but there shall be anvils.

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Posted by: giorgios ( )
Date: October 09, 2012 12:07PM

just bring what you have.. we will work together... will see if we can ad to our plan..

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Posted by: Dorothy ( )
Date: October 09, 2012 12:37PM

That is the problem with us non-believers, it's like hearding cats!

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Posted by: jesuscrisco ( )
Date: October 09, 2012 11:46AM

I find mormonism to be just as christian, if not more, than most christian churches. That includes so-called non-denominational.

Your rant is pretty funny to me. You really believe in a Satan? Or is this thread a joke?

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Posted by: giorgios ( )
Date: October 09, 2012 12:12PM

Yes because the organization uses a very nice perfume.. I mention Satan just because they use him to say what they say.. So no.. I don’t believe in the churches Satan.. And no.. This is not a joke :-) I’m very serious! So let’s free this good "Christians" from that cult :-)



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Posted by: jesuscrisco ( )
Date: October 09, 2012 12:25PM

Sorry, but what exactly is a good christian?

And don't all western religions wrap up their stinking pile of poo in a christmas box?

If your idea of destroying the church is converting mormons over to some other crazy cult like christianity I just don't see the point, that's all.

Crazy is crazy. At least mormons are works-oriented which works in society's favor. I'm no fan of the church, but i'd prefer christians be mormons vs mormons be christians. I know what I'm getting with mormons. christians are totally unpredictable.

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Posted by: giorgios ( )
Date: October 09, 2012 12:37PM

No this is not the idea to convert them to Christianity.. There are others working to expose Christianity itself.. The whole organization of Christianity is evil in its center.. Lots of Mormons that leave the cult are not converting to Christianity.. But for sure you can’t avoid it.. Leaving a fiction and then jump into the next one does not make sense.. But we are working on that also.. To help people make decisions based on real truth and facts.. We don’t know all the answers and that’s fine.. But fiction is fiction.. So it is a great step to leave and concentrate on real things.. on life..

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Posted by: thingsithink ( )
Date: October 09, 2012 03:32PM

Sing baby, sing!

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Posted by: rationalguy ( )
Date: October 09, 2012 11:46AM

They are doing a pretty good job of destroying themselves, IMHO. I think all publicity is bad publicity except to the few non-reflective souls who are vulnerable to religious BS. Most people, especially young ones will immediately go to the net to find out more about mo-ism... That is, if they don't dismiss it outright.

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Posted by: giorgios ( )
Date: October 09, 2012 12:14PM

Yes time is anyway working against them.. But let’s help a little bit :-)

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Posted by: The Oncoming Storm - bc ( )
Date: October 09, 2012 11:56AM

Cults destroy themselves from within and from the top.

As the church gets richer it will also become more corrupt. It has only been prosperous for about 20-30 years.



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Posted by: Mormon Observer ( )
Date: October 09, 2012 03:27PM

"As the church gets richer it will also become more corrupt. It has only been prosperous for about 20-30 years."

The church was bailed out of financial difficulty about 1959.
Then followed a 'golden age' of many years before correlation, where people debated, socialized and enjoyed being each others' friends..such as they could be. The RS had their own building and fund raisers, wrote their own manuals, called their own counselors,etc.

There was great prosperity as the people came home from WWII and started working together managing resources for the common good. Tithing would have been up and the corporate 12 found ways to use the monies pouring in. Of course, there were a few casualties along the way...something about a cherry pitting machine and orchard they stole? a gold mine they commandeered, free labor and resources they scammed out of members in the name of the kingdom.

But now as things start to turn downward for a while (cycles) they may not be able to ride out the storm.
The TSCC has built their money model on tithing and lots of it.
NEVER anticipating people would leave the church while young and not come back!
The good leaders of the sheeple are leaving too, or if staying not being that supportive...who cleans the bathrooms????With lack of leadership what is left for participating membership?

The French have a saying someone quoted here a while back

"When the disgusted leave, only the disgusting are left."

So yes, watch the implosion.
Obviously they're going crazy with the lack of funds and the 5 Billion dollar Jesus mall will not be a help to them!

The TSCC is it's own worst nightmare and liability!

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Posted by: southern idaho inactive ( )
Date: October 09, 2012 02:44PM


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Posted by: FormerLatterClimber ( )
Date: October 09, 2012 03:03PM

I read your post and this quote came to mind, so I'd like to dedicate it to you today:

Walk with the dreamers, the believers, the courageous, the cheerful, the planners, the doers, the successful PEOPLE WITH THEIR HEADS IN THE CLOUDS AND THEIR FEET ON THE GROUND. Let their spirit ignite a fire within you to leave this world better than when you found it. ---Wilfred Peterson

Love the flash mob idea; I think lucky has a most effective idea too. It's going to take a concerted effort to counter the PR. But, also, as bc said, corruption is already happening. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. $30 Billion dollar estimated worth and absolutely no financial accountability is most definitely absolute power---which is corrupting absolutely.

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Posted by: giorgios ( )
Date: October 10, 2012 04:41AM

That’s wonderful! Thank you my Friend! And the Motives should always be Love. Love is real Authority and real Authority is Love! No weapon is stronger than Love. Love is above all!! :-) That’s why "God" would be above all :-) So if you have more Love than the Mormon God.. Than.. you have more power than him :-) and remember there is no real authority outside of Love! Someone can force his imagined authority over you with a gun in his hand but you can say to him.. hey I’m ready to go.. are you? ;-) so how much power is there left in him?!
So again FormerLatterClimber, thanks for sharing the Words of Wilfred Peterson!

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Posted by: Tupperwhere ( )
Date: October 09, 2012 03:05PM

This has already been said but ya, the church crucifies itself with it's outlandish claims and beliefs. It's just a matter of time before it's extinct.

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Posted by: smith ( )
Date: October 10, 2012 08:57AM

I still go to the Morg occasionally just to see what is happening. It is funny because I think that they honestly believe that if they ignore the problems, then everything will ultimately go away.

Then you have people like me who are secretly talking to members about their so called profit, Josephs myth, and I have found that the thinkers and leaders of the church all have the same thoughts, however, they believe the problems to be isolated to their local wards.

In reality there are more needy people in the church than ever before, and there are less people to take care of them. The free work that the Morg requires is putting stress on families. Yesterday the EQ president sent an email out blasting the EQ for not volunteering to watch the nursery due to a RS activity.

The biggest indicator of a downward trend at the morg for me was recently (when i was still TBM) when I was asked to teach the youth (12 and 13), and didn't even know what a prophet was or even basic "Mormon" doctrine. Parents are so busy they don't have time to indoctrinate their children, and the talented teachers and leaders of the church have left. Now you have leadership which is younger and doesn't have any kind of understanding of how people can live enriched lives.

I am guessing that we have about two generations before we start learning about Mormon Mythology.



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Posted by: SusieQ#1 ( )
Date: October 10, 2012 12:14PM

It's my view that religions are not destroyed. Mormonism is here to stay - it's part of the history of the US, for instance, and won't disappear.
Nor do I think we have any RIGHT to impinge our personal feelings on the RIGHTS of others to their religious freedom.

I am passionate about those kinds of freedoms. They are part of how all societies are constructed and always will be on some level.

It appears that the number of Christians, for instance, in the US is dwindling as the number of those with no religion is growing.
That will naturally happen with Mormonism, but it won't be destroyed by people wishing it so.

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