Recovery Board  : RfM
Recovery from Mormonism (RfM) discussion forum. 
Go to Topic: PreviousNext
Go to: Forum ListMessage ListNew TopicSearchLog In
Posted by: saviorself ( )
Date: January 25, 2011 03:51AM

http://www.godandscience.org/cults/smithsonian.html

"Smithsonian archeologists see no direct connection between the archeology of the New World and the subject matter of the book."

Options: ReplyQuote
Posted by: get her done ( )
Date: January 25, 2011 07:03AM

Boy if that statement does not show the Book of Mormom to be a piece of crap, than nothing will.Cult

Options: ReplyQuote
Posted by: elee ( )
Date: January 25, 2011 12:17PM


Options: ReplyQuote
Posted by: Heresy ( )
Date: January 25, 2011 01:01PM

1. The Smithsonian Institution has never used the Book of Mormon in any way as a scientific guide. Smithsonian archaeologists see no direct connection between the archaeology of the New World and the subject matter of the book.

2. The physical type of the American Indian is basically Mongoloid, being most closely related to that of the peoples of eastern, central, and northeastern Asia. Archaeological evidence indicates that the ancestors of the present Indians came into the New World--probably over a land bridge known to have existed in the Bering Strait region during the last Ice Age--in a continuing series of small migrations beginning from about 25,000 to 30,000 years ago.

3. Present evidence indicates that the first people to reach this continent from the East were the Norsemen, who briefly visited the northeastern part of North America around 1000 A.D. and then settled in Greenland. There is no evidence to show that they reached Mexico or Central America.

4. None of the principal Old World domesticated food plants or animals (except the dog) occurred in the New World in pre- Columbian times. This is one of the main lines of evidence supporting the scientific premise that contacts with Old World civilizations, if they occurred, were of very little significance for the development of American Indian civilizations. American Indians had no wheat, barley, oats, millet, rice, cattle, pigs, chickens, horses, donkeys, or camels before 1492. (Camels and horses were in the Americas, along with the bison, mammoth, and mastodon, bat all these animals became extinct around 10,000 B.C. at the time the early big game hunters traveled across the Americas.)

5. Iron, steel, glass, and silk were not used in the New World before 1492 (except for occasional use of unsmelted meteroic iron). Native copper was worked in various locations in pre- Columbian times, but true metallurgy was limited to southern Mexico and the Andean region, where its occurrence in late prehistoric times involved gold, silver, copper, and their alloys, but not iron.

6. There is a possibility that the spread of cultural traits across the Pacific to Mesoamerica and the northwestern coast of South America began several hundred years before the Christian era. However, any such inter-hemispheric contacts appear to have been the results of accidental voyages originating in eastern and southern Asia. It is by no means certain that even such contacts occurred with the ancient Egyptians, Hebrews, or other peoples of Western Asia and the Near East.

7. No reputable Egyptologist or other specialist on Old World archeology, and no expert on New World prehistory, has discovered or confirmed any relationship between archeological remains in Mexico and archeological remains in Egypt.

8. Reports of findings of ancient Egyptian, Hebrew, and other Old World writings in the New World in pre-Columbian contexts have frequently appeared in newspapers, magazines and sensational books. None of these claims has stood up to examination by reputable scholars. No inscriptions using Old World forms of writing have been shown to have occurred in any part of the Americas before 1492 except for a few Norse rune stones which have been found in Greenland.

9. There are copies of the Book of Mormon in the library of the National Museum of Natural History, Smithsonian Institution.

Options: ReplyQuote
Posted by: Rebeckah ( )
Date: January 25, 2011 01:59PM

"During the early 1980s, reports circulated in LDS culture that the Book of Mormon was being used by the Smithsonian to guide primary archaeological research. This rumor was brought to the attention of Smithsonian directors who, in 1996, sent a form letter to inquiring parties stating that the Smithsonian did not use the Book of Mormon to guide any research, and included a list of specific reasons Smithsonian archaeologists considered the Book of Mormon historically unlikely.[29] In 1998, the Smithsonian revised the form letter they sent in response to this issue to take a less controversial stance,[30] specifically replacing detailed allegations of the non-historicity of the Book of Mormon with a simple statement that the Book of Mormon has not been used by the Smithsonian in any form of archaeological research. Mormon scholars suggest this may have been because the 1996 letter contradicts some aspects of research published by Smithsonian staff members. Non-LDS scholars note that the Smithsonian has not retracted any of its previous statements and feel that the response was toned down to avoid negative public relations with Mormons. Terryl Givens suggests that the change in the statement was "in all likelihood a product of controversy-avoidance."[31] Some Mormon scholars speculate that the statement may have been revised because some of the reasons listed are considered controversial or dubious for reasons unrelated to the Book of Mormon by some mainstream historians.[30"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archaeology_and_the_Book_of_Mormon

Options: ReplyQuote
Posted by: SEcular Priest ( )
Date: January 25, 2011 02:00PM

Oh yea of little faith!!! NOT

Great article. Where would BYU scholars stand on this? Anyone know?

Options: ReplyQuote
Posted by: Charlie ( )
Date: January 25, 2011 02:40PM

Thank you for the link!

Options: ReplyQuote
Go to Topic: PreviousNext
Go to: Forum ListMessage ListNew TopicSearchLog In


Screen Name: 
Your Email (optional): 
Subject: 
Spam prevention:
Please, enter the code that you see below in the input field. This is for blocking bots that try to post this form automatically.
  *******   **      **  **    **  **     **  **    ** 
 **     **  **  **  **  ***   **   **   **   ***   ** 
 **         **  **  **  ****  **    ** **    ****  ** 
 ********   **  **  **  ** ** **     ***     ** ** ** 
 **     **  **  **  **  **  ****    ** **    **  **** 
 **     **  **  **  **  **   ***   **   **   **   *** 
  *******    ***  ***   **    **  **     **  **    **