My whole LDS life I heard over and over again that people left the church because they wanted to sin. I also heard over and over that once TSCC exes you that you are left to the buffetings of Satan. That you cannot control yourself any longer. Such wisdom those people have. After learning the TRUTH that TSCC is fraud and really nothing more than a jobs maker for the families of the GA's, I cannot help but want to commit SIN. SATAN has me in his power. I am now truly a sinner in desperate need of many PH blessings. LMAO.

I still have not cheated on my wife. I still do not beat my wife and children. I do enjoy coffee every morning. I guess I am going to hell over a cup of coffee every morning.

If there is such a thing as a habitual liar can you think of anyone or anything that lies more than TSCC?

And that's the funny thing, when people leave the church they do sin as seen from the TBM perspective, but the reality is that they find out that the things declared as sin are actually benign.

Having questionable morals and ethics are a sin to me. EX-religious types who discover themselves and live real lives are some of the most moral and ethical people I've met.

As for people...or GROUPS with questionable morals and ethics....who do you think SINS the most??????

I'm in the same boat as Flip Wilson:

"The Devil Made Me Do It."

Everything about LDS is about diverting attention away from the deception that it consistently employs.

so not wanting to go to church is being controlled by satan, I guess.

What a joke.

Oh man, my kids are controlled by Satan!

It's hard not to sin when you're a Mormon, because there are so many bizarre rules keeping you from living a normal life. Sinning (according to the Mormon church) and living a normal life are the same thing.

Break out the flip flops we are going to get another piercing and maybe even a tattoo!

TWO sins for the price of one.

Colorado Bulldog. Yesss.

I love sinning. Loud laughter, light-mindedness, evil speaking of the lords anointed. Sleeping in on Sunday, spending money on fun activities on Sunday, enjoying my family on my own terms.

I'm in the Devil's hands and it's great!

Sadly most members believe they would be lying in a gutter somewhere if they ever left.

I honestly thought I would get hit by a car or raped or killed when I stopped wearing my garments. It's amazing how badly they brainwashed me on that... because I HATED wearing them and probably would have stopped right away if it werent for the scare tactics.

I think squeebee hit the nail on the head!

TBM DD truely believes that's why I left. And you know what? I do rather enjoy it!!

I've given myself a 10% pay increase, Sundays and Wednesday evenings off, and an occasional glass of wine of the weekends. Life on the outside is good.

Some even manage to keep up appearances as righteous saints while they do all sorts of truly horrible things. Being in the front pew every week and holding a recommend doesn't stop them for a second.

Since leaving the morg I have looked at the mormon mentality from as many different perspectives as I can and in doing that I had to look at the way mormons think. If you ask a mormon what sin is you will get a laundry list that can range from a few actions that warrant being called sins up to multiple pages of numerous actions that are considered sins. The problem with religion in general is that religion, or at least the largest organized religions that boast the largest numbers of members, uses guilt and fear in an attempt to control members and keep them coming back and giving of their money and time to the religion. You cannot have guilt without having done something wrong, thus the list that keeps on growing from religions telling members of all the things they are doing wrong or in other words, all the "sins" members commit and thus the reason they "need" the religion and why they have to keep going back.

Since making the decision to abandon all organized religion, sin no longer fits in my vocabulary. I see sin as a word invented by religion and I do not accept it as a valid action that a responsible adult needs to even think about.

"Since making the decision to abandon all organized religion, sin no longer fits in my vocabulary. I see sin as a word invented by religion and I do not accept it as a valid action that a responsible adult needs to even think about."

Yes!! Have you ever had a conversation with a "religious" person and discussed that concept? They don't get it and it hurts their tender little heads.

If you need religion to tell you how to be a good person you're totally screwed.

I've tried so many times to have this conversation but it always goes nowhere:

grubbygert: "I don't believe in sin" or "what IS sin, anyway?"

religious person: "you're crazy"

now that I'm so far out I really don't get 'sin' - and I don't think most religious people do, either (I know I didn't - not that I can be honest about it) - sure, they can list off things that are supposed to be sinful - but they can never actually define what sin is

"sin is doing something against god's will" - well, if coffee/alcohol/etc is against god's will then why did he create it in the first place???

I sat in on a few courts of "love" while I served on a stake high council. Whenever someone was excommunicated, the SP would warn that they would be subject to the "buffetings of Satan." WTF does that even mean? Since leaving TSCC, one thing I gladly lost was my fear of Mormon superstitions.

I want to be subject to the buffetings of the Golden Corral.

My wife and I liked Golden Corral on our occasional visit to the US, once we moved to Utah we quickly tired of it.

This is in accordance with esoteric spirituality:

As long as you erroneously believe that you're flesh-and-bone person, you are "living in sin": you are like the dreamer who believes he is the "me" character in his dream; you are 'missing the mark' of who or what you truly are (divine) and are falsely predicating yourself as your body, your feelings, even your so-called thoughts. None of these is really "You."

Living "in the world but not of the world" is like being lucid in a dream--you know it's not real, and yet you act your role consciously, guided by a purpose beyond the dream. Not being similarly lucid in this dream of so-called 'waking life' is the state of SIN. It doesn't matter whether you're Al Capone or Goody Two-Shoes. The proto-choice of identifying with this worldly role is missing the mark (sin), and so is every subsequent choice. It's like you took a wrong turn miles back; from there on out, every successive turn will also be wrong, until you remake that proto-choice.

what a drag

Certainly is--to the ego, which is our identity when we falsely predicate. I think it was in this deeper sense that Christians originally stated "We are all sinners." ("Adam's fall" was the symbol of assuming this false identification, this 'missing the mark.') The whole 'sacrificial lamb/Jesus died for our sins' trope, though, itself misses the mark, and most people who quote it are firm devotees of ego. They assume that they-as-their-egos are saved by Jesus. (Oh, yes--as I said in another post, "Satan," the embodiment of separateness, is psychologically the personification of Ego.)

Christ, in this symbolism, actually does save--by demonstrating that the ego and its body are not who he was and hence not who we are. He awakens those who are ready, within the dream.

I sin every day. What's the big deal?

ST

A previous post from pewsitter (hey, good to see you're still sinning!) that I found hilarious :)

http://exmormon.org/phorum/read.php?2,914573

"Ever since I quit attending really boring LDS church meetings, Satan has taken control of my life just like the church leaders said he would. I suddenly started smoking, drinking, cheating, swimming in the ocean and all manner of sins including looking at porn and wiping myself with pages from the mythical book of Mormon."

Sins are arbitrarily defined items. Usually defined by people seeking power over others. It is usually done by absolute moralists. These are people who cannot control their own envirnoment and so they try to control everyone else's

Have a cup of coffee or a cold beer, stay home from church an say $hit a couple of times....that should get you started nicely.

Ron Burr

About a year and a half ago, I took an inventory of my beliefs and why I adhered to them.

Why am I not promiscuous? Well, i think sex is special and I want to share it with someone who shares that mindset. Not a belief unique to TSCC.

Why do I abstain from drugs and alcohol? I had a cousin who got mixed up in drugs pretty hardcore and really wrecked his life. Booze seems to be a bit of a crutch to me. Not for everyone mind you, but it was just never really appealing to me.

These are just a few examples, my point is that I was living the life I was living not for TSCC, but for my own decisions. If I left TSCC, I wouldnt become a wildman overnight and spend all my money on hookers and blow. The GAs would have you think otherwise.

Maybe because that's what they spend their (oops, I mean members') money on.