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Posted by: aaron85 ( )
Date: August 23, 2013 12:00AM

Six. New Jersey. 04-06

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Posted by: JasonK ( )
Date: August 23, 2013 12:59AM

33

All but the last two were confirmed completely inactive before I left my 18-month mission. I so vehemently opposed baptizing one family that I refused to go to their baptism. Before their baptism, they showed up to church once and couldn't answer the most basic questions. Once baptized, they never showed up again.

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Posted by: StoneInHat ( )
Date: August 23, 2013 12:59AM

Brazil, Sao Paulo South - 44 baptisms. I was there from 1989 to 1991.

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Posted by: StoneInHat ( )
Date: August 23, 2013 01:00AM

I also suggested to a lady, who my companion bapized before I arrived in the area, that she have her name removed from the records of the church because she said, "If I'd known that I had to do all these things, I never would have joined this church."

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Posted by: Keith Vaught ( )
Date: August 23, 2013 01:06AM

12. Argentina Buenos Aires South. 75-77.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/23/2013 01:07AM by tgif.

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Posted by: rj ( )
Date: August 23, 2013 01:08AM

Roughly 70
Arcadia California 96-98

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Posted by: rj ( )
Date: August 23, 2013 01:09AM

I've de-converted 4 TBM's though
So 66 to go.

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Posted by: coolelder ( )
Date: August 23, 2013 02:33AM

rj, I was in So. Cal. about the same time. 70 is a lot. Were you Spanih speaking?

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Posted by: kolobian ( )
Date: August 23, 2013 03:53PM

Yeah, i was in so-cal too. 70 is unheard-of, spanish speaking or not..

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Posted by: coolelder ( )
Date: August 23, 2013 01:14AM

20. Riverside, CA. 95-97

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Posted by: GCGCW ( )
Date: August 23, 2013 01:19AM

About 12 in France and Belgium many years ago. Most inactive, but one still going strong last I checked. I've tried to de-convet him w/o success.

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Posted by: msp ( )
Date: August 23, 2013 01:41AM

Deconverted myself while preparing to go on a mission, so -1?

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Posted by: CA girl ( )
Date: August 23, 2013 02:02AM

Spain - 5

Three of them were 9 or 10 year old children of inactives.

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Posted by: Stray Mutt ( )
Date: August 23, 2013 02:23AM

21, which was about four times the mission average. Yet I was still harassed for not baptizing enough.

Alberta-Saskatchewan Mission, 1971-3

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Posted by: cludgie ( )
Date: August 23, 2013 06:55AM

Italy, during a better time for the missionaries there (1969-71): 10

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Posted by: outsider ( )
Date: August 23, 2013 08:38AM

I had four baptisms in Japan in 81 to 83.

However, from 1982, we were tasked with contacting people who had been baptized in the Time of Japan(TM) which had occurred from 1978ish when they declared that Japan would see millions converted, until 1982 as over 90% were already inactive. GHQ sacked the Seventy in charge, Elder Kikuchi, and replaced him with and American.

We were tasked with contacting people and asking them if they wanted the baptism canceled o foul, no harm, in order to try to get the membership under control.

I was a much better “anti missionary” than a plus missionary, so I wound up with negative numbers of baptisms. Something over a dozen.

You should have seen the faces in the High Counsel when I gave that report. . .

I asked to opt out of the traditional traveling missionary talks at the various wards in the Stake, and they granted that.

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Posted by: Laozi ( )
Date: August 23, 2013 06:10PM

You probably know this, but several years ago the church sent Kikuchi back to run East Asia.

Once you are high in the hierarchy, you are never kicked out. Your mistakes are forgiven whether you repent and help your victims or not.

The one exception is George Lee, the native American. But I'm not aware of anyone else who has been fired for anything short of adultery/polygamy.

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Posted by: closer2fine ( )
Date: August 23, 2013 12:38PM

One young single girl......she never set foot in a church after her baptism

A muslim couple who were looking to become christian......lots of extra rules in order for them to get baptised......not sure if they are still active.

A single mother who had previously written herself out of the church, and her two daughters.......she is back out of the church again.

I served in Norway, a very low baptising mission.

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Posted by: BG ( )
Date: August 23, 2013 01:11PM


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Posted by: closer2fine ( )
Date: August 23, 2013 06:42PM

Lets see.... I came home in 2001, shortly after 9/11.

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Posted by: erictheex ( )
Date: August 23, 2013 01:19PM

Florida in the early 90's:

I was top baptizer for 7 on the 24 months I was out. I got 46 people "dunked". I think that was a record. My fastest was 3 hours from meeting him to baptism, yes, 3 hours.

Many were black and I let them join without a WORD about blacks and the p-hood history. I feel sick to my stomach every time I think about it.

about 10 were mentally or socially retarded.

5-7 were kids of in-actives.

Only 3 complete families.

All but 3-4 were wretchedly poor: In the ghetto, govt. housing, on food stamps, living in abandoned trailers, etc.

My best "families" went inactive. I went to visit about 6 years ago. Not trying to be funny here, but the only actives were the retarded ones and the ones who life off the church.

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Posted by: lump ( )
Date: August 23, 2013 01:58PM


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Posted by: elciz ( )
Date: August 23, 2013 02:30PM

Three, in Thailand, decades ago. By the time I left two were inactive. Don't know about the other.

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Posted by: pathist ( )
Date: August 23, 2013 03:47PM

0. Zero. Zip. Nothing. Nill.

South Africa in the early 2000s. Really tough place for missionary work. Although I was frequently told by the ZLs, APs, and MP to set a goal to have X amount of baptisms by X date. When I didnt meet that goal, I was severely chastized. Gee, I wonder why I had a mental breakdown on my mission?

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Posted by: quebec ( )
Date: August 23, 2013 03:55PM

Zero, since I'm a girl.
But if were not talking about going down in the water with them and doing the actual deed then
-a family of 4 (mom, dad, little girl, little boy) but that was 2 weeks after I arrived in that area so it was not really my doing.
-5 eight and nine years old of inactive or part-member families
-1 thirteen year-old from a part-member family
-1 woman in her mid-to late twenties that was a niece of a part-member family and friend with a whole bunch of families related to each other (she was actually related to one of the 5 eight-nine years old)
Central California in early 90's



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Posted by: misterzelph ( )
Date: August 23, 2013 03:55PM

2 Korea 76-78

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Posted by: thedesertrat1 ( )
Date: August 23, 2013 04:19PM

one Argentina 1958

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Posted by: Ed (not logged in) ( )
Date: August 23, 2013 05:20PM

108. Bolivia Santa Cruz, 1999-2001.

We were, in general, expected to baptize at least 5 people a month. Getting less one month was not a big deal. Missing it for 2-3 months straight usually meant you would get chewed out by the MP.

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Posted by: Heartless ( )
Date: August 23, 2013 05:25PM

Mission never went
Military 1 at his request. Ordained him an elder on his death bed at his request. No regrets.

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Posted by: Chump ( )
Date: August 23, 2013 05:27PM

4, I think. Brazil. I was disappointed at the time...I had heard about missionaries baptizing 500 there in the 80's and 90's. I'm grateful now. I'm pretty sure that none of them are active now.

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Posted by: Sicklethruster ( )
Date: August 23, 2013 05:36PM

1. Paris France 89-91

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Posted by: BG ( )
Date: August 23, 2013 06:43PM

Damn a lot of us here are RMs ... I wonder if the Church is listening . I suspect the surge in young unprepared 18 year olds who have never lived away from home or dealt with adult issues are going to leave in even higher percentages.

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Posted by: rhgc ( )
Date: August 23, 2013 06:52PM

I didn't serve a mission but baptized 16 and all but four are active TBMs. I have a lot of work to do to deconvert the 12.



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Posted by: maxxedout ( )
Date: August 23, 2013 07:04PM

Around 45 in Utah SLC North in 83/84. Quite a few were children in part member families or inactive families. Some older folks joined because they thought it may aid their chance for access to welfare

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Posted by: BG ( )
Date: August 23, 2013 07:30PM

When did missionaries start counting baptizing part member families kids as converts? When I was a missionary this was done within the wards and the missionaries did not get near children. This is kind of creepy when you think about it.

Did the Missions become desperate to bump up the numbers of converts?

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Posted by: Ex-CultMember ( )
Date: August 23, 2013 08:35PM

In my mission in the mid 1990's 8 year olds were not counted as a convert if at least one of their parents were members but if they were 9 years old, or older they were considered converts. I believe this was standard across all missions. I don't know when this started or if they've always counted 9 year olds as converts.

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Posted by: albertasaurus ( )
Date: August 23, 2013 07:31PM

10 in Costa Rica from 97-99

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Posted by: bigtime ( )
Date: August 23, 2013 07:52PM

18. Melbourne, Australia 06-08.
Most were extremely destitute emotionally or financially. Most are inactive now, many went inactive while I was still in the mission.

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Posted by: pathos ( )
Date: August 23, 2013 08:10PM

14 in London, 04'-06'

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Posted by: BOUNCED ( )
Date: August 23, 2013 08:38PM

13 in Sydney, Australia during 1989-91. No idea if they are active or if the too have bounced.

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