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I've been thinking about that in the past few days, and I agree -- there would be no significant Christian presence if not for Paul. In particular, his decision to open up Christianity to gentiles was pivotal. His reasoning was that if gentiles had gone through the conversion experience, there was no particular reason to keep them out. By the conversion experience, I think he meant buying into th
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Today
summer
why, Lottie! That is extremely helpful. I have seen the light. It is *so* easy to include the Bible in education.
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Yesterday
summer
When I was growing up, they really did not have much in the way of adolescent literature the way they do now. You had the kids' section and the adult section at the library. I remember starting to explore the adult section at one point, and the librarian did not care. I guess she figured if I was ready, I was ready.
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Yesterday
summer
It's so ridiculous and sad that the church demands their ten percent cut from broke college students. I needed every dime I earned in grad school and then some.
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2 days ago
summer
What I tell parents and students is that reading is like any other skill. You need both instruction and practice. When I was in the classroom, I always maintained a classroom library of about 600 books. My students kept five books at a time in their desks, and they knew that if they finished their work early, they were to get out a book and read. For the second graders, I had everything from word
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2 days ago
summer
Notmo, when is the last time that you visited a public school to watch teachers teaching? Did you know that many schools and teachers allow this for parents and grandparents? I used to keep a director's chair at the back of my classroom for such visits. Most of my visitors had enough after listening to fifteen minutes of instruction in the finer points of how to decode and read long /a/ words, or
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2 days ago
summer
notmonotloggedin Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > the most influential book in history which a good part of the world's population has considered to be God's Word, but pornography is ok. We do not have pornography in the public schools. Who made you think that is the case? Also, please bear in mind that we have to teach *all* the children, including Jews, M
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3 days ago
summer
Exactly. People are people. We are just acknowledging now what has always been true.
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3 days ago
summer
My maternal grandfather's Polish family name may have German origins, and I've always been curious about that.
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3 days ago
summer
Well, as Afghanistan and Iran have proven, you *can* get people to live in the past, but you can't get them to like it or approve of it.
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3 days ago
summer
Oklahoma is known for paying teachers horribly, anyway.
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3 days ago
summer
Norman is the home of the University of Oklahoma, and college towns often tend to be more liberal than surrounding areas. Good for that school district for standing up to the religious bullying.
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4 days ago
summer
I think that individual members can be kind and empathetic, but the Mormon faith as a whole does not promote those qualities. I've read a number of conference talks, and those qualities do not seem to be a priority. The church does relatively little in the way of charity work. And when it does dole out charity to members, it often wants something in return. Plus, there have been so many stories o
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4 days ago
summer
I agree with you. I see a lot more caution about the use of children's photos lately. A lot of parents do not want to take that risk.
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5 days ago
summer
I think that many people are not used to dealing with the intense heat that we've been getting this summer. The most I will do outside lately is to swim laps in a pool, and even the pool is putting up warnings to stay hydrated.
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6 days ago
summer
That's a good long life. There are so many actors, including James, where I have no idea who they are. But he was on some well-known shows including Doogie Howser and Hill Street Blues.
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6 days ago
summer
A number of the things that you mention are happening church-wide, such as a reduction in funds to wards for youth and other activities, and basing sacrament talks on HQ conference talks. It's not just you. Try to remember that there are a number of things under your control, as long as you don't care about maintaining a temple recommend. You have control of your attendance, and if you want t
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7 days ago
summer
From the same Wiki article -- "Bart D. Ehrman attributes the rapid spread of Christianity to five factors: (1) the promise of salvation and eternal life for everyone was an attractive alternative to Roman religions; (2) stories of miracles and healings purportedly showed that the one Christian God was more powerful than the many Roman gods; (3) Christianity began as a grassroots movement
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7 days ago
summer
She had breast cancer that eventually spread to her brain. :( Shannen had a reputation for being difficult to work with, but her costars had only lovely things to say about her. Shannen recently stated that she wanted to work as much as possible "in the next two years" so that, in part, she would not have to work at all, or could at least pick her projects. Here's my question: Ho
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7 days ago
summer
I've always felt sorry for church members who financed the building of chapels, and even helped to physically construct the chapels, and then have the chapels sold out from under them. The church treats its members like trash.
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8 days ago
summer
Happy Bastille Day! Many years ago I had the good fortune to be in Paris on Bastille Day, and it was such a delight.
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9 days ago
summer
It was filmed in Vancouver last fall. The release date is November 15th, and it's going up against some heavy hitters, including Gladiator II, a Tom Hanks movie, and a Dwayne Johnson movie. I suppose it's looking for that niche horror audience. On to Cinemax after that. Being a religion-pusher in 2024 has got to be a tough slog.
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10 days ago
summer
Elvis might enjoy all of the white and gilt decoratons.
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10 days ago
summer
You have your reception at home (as my brother and his wife did,) or in a backyard, or a park, or you reserve a pavilion at a park. I'm at a loss as to why you would have a reception in a cultural hall/basketball court, but that's Mormon culture for you.
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10 days ago
summer
McCleve was being investigated due to associating with children once again, something that he was expressly forbidden from doing under the terms of his parole. Some people never learn. I guess he must love wearing the prison jumpsuit.
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11 days ago
summer
Canada did very well by making the semis. England prevailed against the Netherlands. They will face Spain in the final on Sunday. I've been watching the Copa America as well. Colombia vs. Uruguay was something of a slugfest. I don't think I've ever seen so many yellow cards drawn, and there was even a red card early on for a Colombian player who whacked a Uruguayan. It leaves me a bit concern
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12 days ago
summer
The Sun Gold cherry tomatoes at my brother's house are so good that I eat them straight off the vine. He also grows full-size Purple Cherokees and several other varieties. They are setting really nicely this year, probably due to the intense heat we've been experiencing. The cukes, peppers, and patty-pan squash are all doing great as well.
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12 days ago
summer
>> To be clear, I've heard of schism before, of course. But being "guilty of schism" - that's a new one on me. That's a new term for me as well, Nightingale. But apparently, apostasy, heresy, and schism are the "big three." According to the linked website, "An automatic excommunication is attached to what the Church considers very serious ecclesiastical crimes: a
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12 days ago
summer
Your average Catholic is not questioning Francis's claim. What happened was highly unusual but perfectly acceptable under RC church law.
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