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I was attacked by a football player on my college campus. The police told me that he had attacked multiple women, and he was later convicted of raping an additional women. Some young men are just not used to hearing the word, "No." I'm willing to guess that if Jake Retzlaff did this once, he may have done it more than once, and more women might come forward. Time will tell.
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2 days ago
summer
That is a beautifully expressed post. Thank you for sharing. A good friend of mine converted to Mormonism in high school. She had been out from school for an extended time due to illness, and the missionaries got to her. That's how they roll. The Mormons embraced her wholeheartedly. She drank the Kool-Aid. She toured the Washington D.C. temple with her fellow ward members just prior to when i
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2 days ago
summer
It's been crazy. We even got a good sized tornado just south of Baltimore a few days ago. Stay safe, Eric.
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4 days ago
summer
Henry, most women I know were just fine with the provisions of Roe vs. Wade.
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5 days ago
summer
I think that there was a point where religions had a vested interest in ensuring that a couple stayed together and formed a marital unit before having children. I get that. I also get the emphasis on virginity to ensure that fathers knew that the offspring were theirs. But nowadays people have to take responsibility for their own affairs. Birth control has freed women from having to marry and
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5 days ago
summer
Isn't it interesting how these mass murderers think nothing of taking other people's lives, but get so protective of their own life?
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5 days ago
summer
The eastern religions in general are a refreshing change from the Abrahamic religions, including Christianity. When I took multiple courses about them both in high school and at university, they helped me to see that there are radically different ways of looking at the world.
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5 days ago
summer
I agree. The child may well face significant disabilities due to his or her circumstances, and the family should sue for support.
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5 days ago
summer
I supported Roe v. Wade, and feel that it offered a reasonable compromise between a woman's right of self determination vs. the state's right on behalf of the fetus. It's not true that abortion was banned in the second or third trimesters -- it just became increasingly more restricted. In this particular case, under Roe the family would have had plenty of time to secure the abortion on the mot
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5 days ago
summer
It depends on the woman. There is no intrinsic reason for it to decline in a healthy woman.
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5 days ago
summer
Cl2, you might consider cautioning your daughter. In the past, bishops were encouraged to ask even married couples about their bedroom habits. I think that was during the Spencer Kimball era. You never know what some rogue bishop will do, and she should know that she does not need to answer those types of questions.
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5 days ago
summer
The quick explanation is that humans will only be a very small part of a much larger landscape. Often you might struggle to see them at first. The emphasis is on nature. This reflects the philosophy that humans are only a very small part of the larger picture. The second thing is that Taoist artists always included a deliberate flaw in their paintings because nature is not perfect (and neithe
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5 days ago
summer
When I learn about some of the goofy things the rich spend big money on, I just have to shake my head. I think to myself, some people have too much money. Does the LDS church have too much money? I would argue that it does. It should not be asking members for 10% of their incomes, because the church does not seem to know what to do with the huge amount of money that it has, other than to slap
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5 days ago
summer
Ouch! Yes, cl2, this is the time to be practicing self-care. Put your foot up and watch some trash TV. I hope that you make a good recovery.
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5 days ago
summer
Elder Berry, in my younger days I learned a great deal from the Tao Te Ching as you have. I especially liked R.L. Wing's interpretation (he had a workbook edition of his translation that was my favorite.) My impression of reading it and working with it for years and years is that more than any other religion/philosophy on the planet, the Taoists had the best grip on how things work in the real wo
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5 days ago
summer
I think that waking up from religion starts with finding just one thing that isn't true or for which you morally differ. For me, it was the Roman Catholic church's ban on "artificial" birth control including the pill, IUDs, etc. It dawned on me from a young age that birth control is a moral "good." It allows women and their partners the ability to plan and largely control thei
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5 days ago
summer
Yes, it's been proven by research. You can Google it. IMO it's also good for relieving stress. It's especially helpful for people without partners. And for women, it helps to teach us about our sexuality and what pleases us.
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5 days ago
summer
So much of religion is a criticism of the believer. If you would only confess your sins, receive absolution, attend your weekly meetings to stay on the straight and narrow, take this wafer of bread to have eternal life, do this ritual to have the super-upgraded exaltation, etc. then you will be an okay human being. I got to a point where I realized that I'm just fine without all of that. I avo
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6 days ago
summer
If it's one thing that I've learned from public school teaching, it's that all kinds of adults have children. Some are more fit for parenting than others. And honestly, I think that ten kids would stretch the emotional resources of most people.
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6 days ago
summer
It's a sad, outrageous situation. They family should have been allowed to decide. But that's what you get when you live in a backwards state.
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6 days ago
summer
People "see" and believe all kinds of crazy things. You know all those people who claimed to see Jesus (or departed family members, or the people who were being baptized for the dead) in Mormon temples? I don't believe them, either.
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6 days ago
summer
At one point, Utah had the highest number of subscriptions to porn sites. I remember once looking into a Utah man who was something of a shyster. I wanted to find out more about him. I found out his email addy one way or another, and put it through a search engine. Up pops his membership to a porn site. That tracked!
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6 days ago
summer
Plus, it had been nearly 100 years since the last major pandemic (the 1917 Spanish flu pandemic.) We were due another. Some things happen rarely, but in long cycles.
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8 days ago
summer
I've been teaching in the public schools for twenty eight years now. It would be incorrect to say that teachers want all students to think alike. Teachers enjoy lively classroom discussions. What we will not stand for are comments that are disrespectful to other students or groups, that are racist, sexist, etc. The majority of us also have no patience for false information, conspiracy theories, e
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9 days ago
summer
I am seeing an increasing number of Liams. No Olivias.
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13 days ago
summer
There really is not the same push for doctrinal and belief conformity in the RCC as there is in Mormonism. They'll only insist if you are a very public figure who is speaking out, and not even always then. The RCC excommunicates members only rarely, and there is no equivalent of a temple recommend interview. A priest with faith issues would not be considered remarkable.
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13 days ago
summer
My Mormon friend from high school knew about polygamy in the early to mid-70s. She gave the apologist excuse that she had been taught, that there was an excess of women on the frontier who needed to be supported (which we now know was never true.)
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13 days ago
summer
It would be a mistake to judge Catholicism by Mormon standards. The RCC is a "big tent" denomination that has a large tolerance for varying worship styles, from the "twice a years" to the Opus Dei faction. As Blindguy points out, it would be a mistake to judge the world church by U.S. standards. The RCC in Africa, for instance, has a much lower tolerance for LGBTQ individuals.
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14 days ago
summer
Young children rapidly pushing someone's head down into the water. What could possibly go wrong? As a former lifeguard, this makes me cringe.
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14 days ago
summer
So, apparently conservative Catholics are very upset by the results of the election, in the same manner that they were upset with Francis. I don't remember my relatives ever being upset by a pope in the olden days, although they liked some better than others. They really liked John XXIII, who was very similar to Francis, a "peace and love" pope.
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