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12 years ago
hero7
Throw the book is a common term for making a legal action against someone
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12 years ago
hero7
I just hit a point where Even though I had tried and tried and tried, nothing seemed right. Then I was on wikipedia and started reading about some of the criticisms of the church and everything just sort of made sense
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12 years ago
hero7
I told my roomate once. He say thoughtful of it for a little while than just says "I trust that JS knew what he was doing" and went on without thinking about it. Anything to dispel the cog-dis and get on with their lives, I assume is a common reaction
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12 years ago
hero7
Right, because the voice of 2 million people > the rest of the world, and their religions, and them knowing it is true
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12 years ago
hero7
It's basically a giant strawman argument
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12 years ago
hero7
I really like this post "there are somethings to note about exmormon.org. as a person that has read like 40 hours of that stuff. partly because i am curious and partly because i want to hear what the other side says. and because my testimony is strong enough to withstand the sickening feeling i get reading it and not collapse." ... ... ... REALLY???
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12 years ago
hero7
google uses your search history and other things to try and give you results you want to see. I am not sure how it works, but you could try to clear your internet history or opening a different browser and lds.org will probably be first (it is for me)
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12 years ago
hero7
haha. I know XKCD did that one once
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12 years ago
hero7
Yeah, that was Vladimir Lenin who said that
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12 years ago
hero7
Also, JS kept a diary of the translation, in which he writes the symbol, and then the translation next to it. And it isn't the right translation at all
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12 years ago
hero7
Mine does, but it is a couple hundred dollars 0.o
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12 years ago
hero7
Recently I have really wanted to tell my parents that I don't believe and that I never really did, and that I only went with them. I moved out a couple years ago and kept going to keep appearances up with them, but it wasn't until about six months ago that I really found out about the scam of TSCC. The problem is, I have a sibling who is still a minor at home, openly saying that they don't wa
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12 years ago
hero7
I am a closet ex-mo right now. I am so tempted to print that thing out from the link and leave it lying around for one of my TBM roommates to find. That would just be hilarious to see as the color drained from one of these guys faces. Heck, I could just leave it around the church building :p
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12 years ago
hero7
I wasn't a seminary teacher, but I have a story about one of mine. One day a kid asked if you really learn secret handshakes and get a new name in the temple. He told him no, that was not the case and that it was just something that anti-mormon people came up with. All that I mean by this, is that some of them are really intellectually dishonest with their students, just trying to sell the pro
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12 years ago
hero7
interesting. If you look at the general trends on that, it looks like people who marry at an older age are less likely to get divorced, when clicking between median first marriage and percent divorced.
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12 years ago
hero7
The funny thing too, is that movie standards are different from country to country. I have heard about how in England for example, they have church activities where they watch Passion of the Christ , something with an R rating in the US
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12 years ago
hero7
Where I am from, most of the Mo guys want to date converts because they have more "experience"
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12 years ago
hero7
n/t
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12 years ago
hero7
I actually remember my 12 year old interview pretty well now. The bishop actually got up from his desk and came to sit next to me. Pretty weird, but ofc as a 12 year old BiC I couldn't even imagine anything bad. He was just an old guy. Really awkward now that I remember and am much older
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12 years ago
hero7
Similar experience, right down to the BoA on wikipedia. It is funny just how easy it is to find stuff in the most normal of places, and yet most members haven't taken a glance at it because it is "evil" Right afterwards, I went to youtube and starting looking for things on the temple ceremony
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12 years ago
hero7
This sounds very similar to an experience I had. Before leaving for college, I was pushed by parent's and local wward to become an elder. We didn't do it fast enough, and when I went to college and expressed the same doubts the bishop there said that it wasn't a bad thing if I wanted to wait. Thank goodness this bishop was more rational and actually thought about what was happening to me
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12 years ago
hero7
I had 4 different seminary teachers, and my sophmore and senior year ones would constantly pull me out of class and ask why I didn't try and try to guilt trip me about everything. I remember when we had to do our "joseph smith projects". I didn't have to do anything, because it was possible to drop the whole project and still get an 'A' so my parents would be none the wiser. OFC I g
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12 years ago
hero7
From what I have heard, raising the dead is supposed to be a priesthood ordinance restored after the second coming. That is for all the people who are alive, they will go around and raise the dead one by one till everyone is alive again. At least that is what an institute teacher tried to get us to buy one time. I don't think that that exactly the mainstream belief but probably something close to
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12 years ago
hero7
I think that the average ages for marriage in TSCC 27 for males and 24 for females. Its about 4 to 5 years higher for the general population
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12 years ago
hero7
n/t
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12 years ago
hero7
mine was very basic and didn't answer any of the questions I had fasted and prayed about. It basically said go on a mission, get married, raise kids in the gospel, come forth in the morning of the first ressurection. No real guidance except "keep doing what you are doing" and nothing to contend with some doubts I was having at the time
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13 years ago
hero7
I didn't know that anyone would really care about it this much. A lot of the stuff I had was just like for the strength of youth, true to the faith, gospel principles, etc. All of the stuff that you basically walk up to a bishop and say you want (or get given to you constantly as a youth). I just wanted to get rid of it, even as a believing mormon, most of those books I hadn't even cracked op
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13 years ago
hero7
Just doing a cleaning up of the place, and this is the first time I have done this since becoming an unbeliever. I never realized just how much of this stuff I had gotten from parents/relatives over the years. Indoctrination at its finest! Also, how much money must they spend on this stuff like: leather bound "teachings of the prophet joseph smith" with my name engraved on it at l
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13 years ago
hero7
True. Dawkins thing is that he feels it is a borderline form of child abuse to tell a kid that they are a certain way. Specifically when it comes to religion. I don't think I articulated that very well
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