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10 years ago
moroniandcheese
It was actually quite distressing. I thought I was broken in some way.
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10 years ago
moroniandcheese
I wish :-(
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10 years ago
moroniandcheese
n/t
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10 years ago
moroniandcheese
For the moment, I have a 2 year old and an 8 month old. We are usually on a time crunch, so...things have to be quick and intense for orgasm. Cuddly sex is for nighttime, but we are both tired and cannot invest an hour. It works for us, right now. We get both, just not right at the same time.
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10 years ago
moroniandcheese
And blond hair, red hair and brown hair. There are different shades of white, I guess.
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10 years ago
moroniandcheese
It is very difficult for me to "Finish" face to face. The friction is on the wrong place. It will happen occasionally, but it is usually not worth trying and not what I am after. This is not an uncommon problem. It may affect up to 75% of women, based on survey data. That said, I do crave it, but usually after my lust needs have been recently met. I am sure some couples ca
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10 years ago
moroniandcheese
I am a feminist, but I will admit that there are some who are so dogmatic that they cannot accept facts that are staring them in the face, and yes, this can be frustrating. Of course men are physically stronger on average. This is why we are often afraid of you. My main goal is indeed equality, though that one word really does not encompass what I mean. I do not believe that most people ar
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10 years ago
moroniandcheese
8. these?
http://www.publicagendaarchives.org/charts/sat-scores-gender Granted, there is a modest, but statistically significant difference in math (men favored) and writing (women favored). However, there is evidence that the gender gap is eliminated in some countries. http://insight.kellogg.northwestern.edu/article/women_and_math_the_gender_gap_bridged Men are more often pushed/encouraged into t
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10 years ago
moroniandcheese
In the US and much of Western Europe (and indeed, the world), women are conditioned to take on the less glamorous, less prestigious, lower paying work. Men are conditioned to avoid the work. The lines are starting to blur, but they have not bled together yet, and even as women Have come into more prestigious positions, labor is still divided much along gendered ljnes. I'm not claiming that t
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10 years ago
moroniandcheese
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10 years ago
moroniandcheese
I unfortunately, do not. It is one of the tragedies of science, to quote Aronra "The information is already difficult to understand, it shouldn't be difficult to access". As such, I have to get most of my information from secondary sources. When I put "Gender differences in logical Reasoning" into Google scholar, this is the only thing I came up with: http://www.j
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10 years ago
moroniandcheese
I think he is an intentional huckster. Men do seem more likely to fall for him though. Whereas women are more drawn in by the likes of Sylvia Browne. Both people know how to make things "Seem" logical to their audience, after all, everyone likes to think that they believe things for a reason. But neither of them are logical. My hypothesis is that men and women ARE taken in
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10 years ago
moroniandcheese
13. sure
For the record, I'm not offended, just pedantic. I believe the claim "Men are more logical than Women" is false, and I have evidence to back it up. But, you cannot deny the "Flighty emotional Female/logical male" stereotype that has existed for generations, and still continues today. What is logic? It is the ability to process information and draw conclusions, right?
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10 years ago
moroniandcheese
I think we can all agree that there is good reason for the church to try to keep sexuality in a box as a method of control. This is my idea on the how/why it works. In humans, sex can be used to express romantic affection, and it can also be used to express lust. Lust is a deep seeded limbic thing that is ubiquitous among all sexual animals, and we need it. We need both. TSCC attempts t
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10 years ago
moroniandcheese
Rule oriented sounds kinda like Kohlberg's fourth stage (for men). And social orientation sounds a bit like Kohlberg's third stage. I may be completely off though. This is a different animal. I would be interested in the source material. I have not read much on this.
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10 years ago
moroniandcheese
Maybe we need to agree on a definition. I can even buy that men and women might be more likely to fall for slightly different flavors of hokum, or the we solve problems in slightly different ways. I do not believe, at all, that men are more "Logical", because, well, as far as I understand what logic IS (taking A and B and deriving C and cross checking for accuracy) that WOULD pretty
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10 years ago
moroniandcheese
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10 years ago
moroniandcheese
See the first article, it had a huge sample size. Many other similar studies have been done. And yes, I know that we humans testing our own logical IQ is rather like rats running themselves though mazes, but it's the best we can do.
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10 years ago
moroniandcheese
http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/beautiful-minds/201207/men-women-and-iq-setting-the-record-straight We are not "Less Logical" at all. We DO have more social leeway when it comes to expressing emotion. Men still have the emotions, they just aren't encouraged to show them. Emotional health and logical ability are not mutually exclusive. The truth is, no one is really that
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10 years ago
moroniandcheese
20. agreed
And I think this is precisely WHY the church tries to convince women, from a young age, to stay at home. It would work on men too, but SOMEONE has to earn the tithing...
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10 years ago
moroniandcheese
The will likely stumble into the insufficient justification effect. "I have sacrificed SO much, it MUST be worth It". I see this on Facebook all the time. Women who are intelligent, and who are good mothers, but are bored out of their skulls and unhappy. They post that it is "So Worth It" all the time. NO ONE is designed to be a suburban house wife. You need to have time and l
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10 years ago
moroniandcheese
Are alien watching groups and conspiracy loony groups such sausage fests? They aren't basing their beliefs on logic either, it's just a sell of a different kind of emotion.
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10 years ago
moroniandcheese
My sister is out. Two of my aunts are out. All the cousins that have left are female. My brother is still in. If I were to take my own experience, I would come to the opposite conclusion you did. Maybe there is some selective perception going on? Anyway, that is not to say that women DON'T stay in the church or find appeal there. In my lay opinion, a lot of the draw is the instant communi
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10 years ago
moroniandcheese
Every decent job I have got has started as a temp job. They will make you do crap at first, to show you are reliable, but once you do that, you will have a pro team in your corner. SOS is my favorite.
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10 years ago
moroniandcheese
Will invent reasons other than social pressure for the changes that they make because of social pressure :). Then they will scold you for bringing it up.
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10 years ago
moroniandcheese
The combinations are really completely crazy. There are people who fall in love with cars or buildings and people who get off on shame. You are right that everyone has some secret desire. This is why religion tries so hard to keep sexuality in a box. Setting (very boring) rules is a sure fire way to induce guilt in virtually every one. To be a good Mormon, You must be heterosexual, indulge
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10 years ago
moroniandcheese
The last ward I attended was really cliquish. There were a few meetings where the (usually perfectly nice) shunned families would send a representative to the stand to take everyone to task for not including them. It did not help.
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10 years ago
moroniandcheese
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10 years ago
moroniandcheese
Novelty seekers will be more likely to engage in mixed orientation sex. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novelty_seeking. I've been lost in the sexuality branch of Wikipedia this morning. :)
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10 years ago
moroniandcheese
What I mean is sexual orientation doesn't directly relate to what sex acts are performed. Otherwise, you really would be able to change orientation. Orientation is about what attracts you, what you fantasize about and who you fall in love with. I could decide to have sex with as many women as I have men. I would still be straight, because I'm not attracted to women, physically or emotionall
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