I know. And people wonder why I haven't gone to church in 8 months, or why I don't want to talk to the bishop about my concerns with the church. Well, for one thing, you never know if you are talking with a crack pot or not. The church gives these guys a huge amount of power with no other prerequisites. All they have to show is complete devotion to the church and its leaders to be put into these
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If you are considering joining the mormon church. Please reconsider. I have been a member of the church my entire life. Over the last few years I have watched several of my close friends on their personal journeys with their faith transitions. One of these particular friends found the history that the church hides to be extremely distressing. In an attempt to share what he had learned he bega
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I think after being force-fed BS for years and then making the decision that you don't like the taste of BS, you may be hesitant when others try to feed you similar BS.
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That is a good point. In order to keep the church sustainable they need something that separates them from everyone else. I never considered it before, but about the time they were trying to cut down on multiple wives, they were ramping up their focus on the WoW. Maybe my time line is messed up, but I seem to recall a new focus on the WoW during those years from what I have read.
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I am too embarressed by my name. I was so looking forward to the temple experience and then the name came. I remember thinking "what now??!! Are you kidding me? This is supposed to be my name forever?"
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Too funny. We got food storage as a wedding gift. 2 yrs later we regifted it at a friends wedding. I can only imagine it has since been regifted.
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I would get my own seer stone and hat and use them to conduct every meeting just to show how ridiculous it is. I would tell the members I am just following the example js. What would you do?
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That should be the first thing the missionaries teach. So many people I know love their coffee. Trying to tell them God won't accept them cause of coffee is absurd.
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Interesting you say that ozpoof. I remember several years back talking about Paul H Dunn with a fellow TBM at the time. Actually quite a good friend. I was telling him how I felt betrayed by the fact that he lied about his experiences and gained such a following. My friend said something along the lines of "well if it brings people to Christ does it matter?" I looked at him strangel
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rationalguy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- In fact, the current etiquette of > attending a Sunday school lesson or other class is > to quietly listen and not pose any question that > would rock the boat or open any speculative > discussion. I once saw a guy get physically thrown out of elder's quorum for stating an alternate view and "d
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Rubicon Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Let me guess. It looks like a saddle and Moroni > is riding it with a cowboy hat in one hand. That would be awesome. Maybe I would have gone.
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Still realizing how screwed up I am every day!
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Luckily for me I have a wife who has joined me on this journey rather than wanting to remain within the walls of the church. We have always been very open with each other so when I started the discovery process I would always ask her for her opinion. It wasn't long before she began reading the issues too. I was really hoping that that in the most recent GC there would be some sort of token oli
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I remember a few years ago our stake went hard core trying to reactivate the inactives. The idea was they would bug them so much either they would come back or they would leave for good and they could get them off their records, so they could improve their home teaching stats I guess. Bringing resignation letters around sounds too funny. I think it is another part of saying "you are eithe
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Sounds like an anomoly to me. I don't know any TBM that would allow it in moderation.
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That is hilarious. I remember watching the 2nd councilor sneak into the corner store to buy bread for sacrament right before church then sneak back out. He kept looking around cause he didn't want to get caught.
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SusieQ#1 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Yes! That's about it. It's sorta like working for > a company and being hired to sell a product then > finding out the product doesn't work. Best to just > keep quiet about it, and move on. I love the analogy! Not only does the product not work, it is harming peoples lives! Time to demand a product re
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When I first began having issues with the church history my bishop said a couple of things. 1. It is okay to question, as long as I am not questioning to prove the church isn't true. 2. I can't talk about my questions or new opinions with others in the ward. I completely expected these types of statements at the time, and I somewhat agreed, even though I was bothered by it all. The lo
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It really is overwhelming isn't it. Sometimes I read other peoples stories or think about my own and it all feels so surreal. I just wonder, how does this stuff even happen? I think you said it perfect with your comment about the priesthood power. The other comments here are great. I think you did the greatest service for your children by not making them go to church. The teachings will me
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I have to agree. The Lost Boys are a favorite.
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Just glad it is done with. Now I don't have to see all the invites all over FB everyday.
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Every time I hear about your ex I am just amazed what you go through. Good luck with this one!
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I was just thinking that Steve. Don't they know how hard that angel worked to get his wings? Going to have to go out there and start ringing some bells!
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I had to laugh when I read this post. When I was TBM I would go all week without thinking about porn or other "bad thoughts". Had been months since I had even considered looking at it. Then my ward went on an anti-porn kick. Every week for a few weeks they talked about it. Then at GC the following week that year they talked about it. The only time I thought about porn ended up being
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I am no expert, but blood atonement, polygamy and racism all seem to rank up there as soul destroying doctrine in my books.
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Technically members are to only do work for people they are directly related to. They are related to you through your marriage to their son. But beyond that I don't see how they would be related to your relatives. If they want to keep the "rules" of the church I would not encourage it. Members are so eager to do everyones work.
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I think it was once taught that unless you are sealed in the mormon temple you will actually forget that you were related to your family members or something like that. Also weird ideas like, if you don't make it to the celestial kingdom but your family does, your family can visit you in the lower kingdom, but you can't visit them. So I guess there will be passports issued in heaven and immig
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Served in Korea, this was very common. One ward had 800 on the list with about 50 people attending. Another branch had about 150 on the list with about 8 to 12 people attending. Every unit was like this.
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Ladyfarrier, That is interesting. I didn't realize a person needed to be in good standing to pay tithing. Do you know if this is common? Sounds just weird to me. They try to call tithing a donation, but it hardly seems to be a donation with so much control over who can give it, and having to give it to maintain good status. Just strange.
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It has been roughly 6 months since I have paid tithing and since I began my disaffection from TSCC. I was paying bills (fun, right?) tonight and afterwards was thinking how much I love not having to include tithing. For the first time in my life I feel I am on top of things. So here is a shout out to all those who find better things to do with their money!
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