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7 years ago
randyj
"My ex's 'boyfriend' is a married Muslim here getting his Ph.D. He told my ex that they can have sex with other men and a lot of the men have sex with young boys. Of course, that means the men were also used for sex when they were young boys. "It is not spoken of." Yes, I've heard about this from several returning US military personnel who had served in the Middle East. It's
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7 years ago
randyj
"I was under the impression that this sick justification of rape from some Muslim extremist clerics did not allow sex-slaves to come from the mono-theistic populations associated with Islam: Christians and Jews (people of the "Book.")" There are apparently a lot of things that Muslims claim that they don't do, that in fact they do. Of course, coming from a religion which s
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7 years ago
randyj
"I don't want to live in Jesusland." The USA as a whole hasn't changed as far as its religious background and traditions. The USA began as predominantly Christian colonies, and the vast majority of Americans are still Christians of one stripe or another. What has changed is that modern liberals have moved further to the radical left than they were 50-100 years ago, and they've beco
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7 years ago
randyj
"It is the relevant popular vote count that indicates that those faithful Trump supporters are outnumbered by Trump opponents who will continue to stand against him." The popular vote counts no more when you cited it in this post than it did when you cited it in your previous post. Hillary Clinton could have gotten 3 million or 6 million more popular votes than Trump, but that would
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7 years ago
randyj
"Don't be deliberately obtuse. Look at how much of the black vote he got and get back to me." Genius, it doesn't matter what percentage of the black vote Trump got. Democrat candidates get 85%-95% of the black vote whether the Republican candidate is Trump or anyone else. My point is that since Trump had black supporters prominently featured at his campaign rally, then the campaign
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7 years ago
randyj
"Yes, I am. It wasn't any better when Obama catered to nonsense and fake BS. Stop baiting. Ain't gonna work." Loyalexmo, your opinion is only your opinion, and nobody else is obligated to agree with it or follow it. American politicians are free to exercise their religious beliefs, exactly as the constitution states. Perhaps your problem is with the constitution.
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7 years ago
randyj
In another thread, the poster "anybody" opined on Melania Trump's recital of the Lord's prayer at a political campaign rally: "This is using religion as a weapon to divide and polarise America. "Government and religion should and must be separate." That reminded me of the time when that dastardly, evil former president Franklin D. Roosevelt delivered a prayer on
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7 years ago
randyj
Just get yourself some sex slaves! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOJA0bct7cU "The mufti explained that the process to acquire slaves, is for a Muslim country to attack a Christian country, or a non-Muslim country, and enslave the prisoners of war. I asked him that if this isn't Haram (not allowed). He assured me that in Islam slavery is permitted, and a sex-slave is legally inferio
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7 years ago
randyj
"The republicommies are plotting to remove Drumpf so that they can install their Pence monkey who is even scarier than Drumpf." Yes, Dave the Atheist, you're exactly right. And southern states prevent blacks from voting, and you can't get health care in Alabama. You are so right about so many things.
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7 years ago
randyj
"His latest bizarre outbursts, ramblings and multiple anger mismanagement moments were on full display during an hour-plus-long news conference he recently gave in the East Room of the White House. "If this is any indication of the state of Trump's mental capacities, it's all downhill from here. He won't need the East Room; he'll need a padded room." Steve, everything you wro
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7 years ago
randyj
"In Mississippi and in other parts of the deep south all sorts of events open with prayer and most people are sincere. But The Lord's Prayer? Not really. It is usually recited at some point during sunday services but it wouldn't be trotted out as some generic all purpose prayer in an attempt to seem Christian." Has it occurred to you that Melania might have recited the Lord's prayer
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7 years ago
randyj
"This is all about solidifying the allegiance of the religious right." Yes, of course you're right! Every previous POTUS or their wife who has ever participated in a religious prayer, ritual, or ceremony, has done so to in order to solidify the allegiance of their ideological base! That's why Obama was a member of a black separationist liberation theology church for two decades!
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7 years ago
randyj
"Actually, this rally was to exite the racists." Wow, if that's the case, then Trump seems to have failed miserably, considering all of those black people sitting behind him at the rally holding up "Blacks for Trump 2020" posters.
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7 years ago
randyj
"Translation: Those who are against Trump are against God. "These are Trump's version of the Nuremberg rallys." Yes, of course you're right! The first lady of the US reciting the Lord's prayer at a political rally is a sure sign that the next Holocaust is nigh! Oh, the humanity!
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7 years ago
randyj
"I guess we can assume from this latest, trump insensitivity that Christianity is indeed our State Religion!" Yes, you're 100% correct! Every previous POTUS who ever attended a Christian church, said a Christian prayer, attended a Christian funeral, or participated in a Christian religious ritual in any way, magically made Christianity the US state religion! Thank you for bring
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7 years ago
randyj
"Just a question, because I don't know. If it is a private rally, therefore partisan, why did DJT use the govt plane, Air Force One, to travel there?" The POTUS has to travel everywhere by Air Force One because of security reasons. The plane contains everything needed to run the country in case of attack or sabotage etc., such as occurred on 9/11/2001.
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7 years ago
randyj
"https://ffrf.org/news/news-releases/item/26489-ffrf-sues-congress-for-banning-atheist-from-delivering-house-invocation "They might be able to legally but it's still exclusionary." So, you first assert that the Lord's prayer shouldn't be recited at a political rally (which you are completely wrong about), and then you follow that up with an article which asserts that an athei
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7 years ago
randyj
"You don't get it? "Embarrassed that an advanced, civilized country resorts to some horse-shit nonsense appealing to the superstitious? Come on RandyJ, didn't you escape this silliness?" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pbEBxQPWGc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZShtiC6MWSI "ThingsIthink," are you similarly embarrassed by the "horse-shit nonsense" in
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7 years ago
randyj
"Given that the USA was founded on the separation of Church and State - I found it (a) inappropriate for the Lord's Prayer to be presented at that venue;" You're 100% wrong. There is no problem with offering prayers at government or political functions. "(b) was saddened, and actually embarrassed on behalf of the US, that she actually had to read it" Why do you assum
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7 years ago
randyj
"On the surface, it seems innocent. "But it isn't. "This is using religion as a weapon to divide and polarise America. "Government and religion should and must be separate." "Anybody," I'm giving you the rare combination face palm/eyeroll for your comment. First off: Trump's appearance today was a private rally paid for by his campaign funds--
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7 years ago
randyj
...which has been closed, this article came across this morning: http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2017/02/has-washington-gone-crazy.php "The idea that Vice President Mike Pence and a majority of Trump’s cabinet will declare Donald Trump unable to perform the duties of the presidency is, of course, insane. It is rather ironic that the 25th Amendment schemers, not Donald Trump, ar
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7 years ago
randyj
...is this part: "'Section 4. Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his offic
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7 years ago
randyj
"I know many ex-Mo's on this site are very conservative, but his "Obamacare" has been very good to him. Our biggest fear, and that of my son, is the current administration's desire to get rid of the ACA, and let the public twist in the wind again as in the past." Whether the current administration wants to get rid of Obamacare or not, it is about to go defunct on its own:
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7 years ago
randyj
I just came across this: http://www.ibtimes.com/most-popular-religions-america-jews-viewed-most-favorably-muslims-least-favorable-2492711 Apparently, the only religion rated less popular than Mormon is Muslim. I don't know why JWs weren't included, seeing as how there are JWs than Mormons. Maybe the pollsters placed JWs under mainline Protestant.
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7 years ago
randyj
"WHERE did this seer stone come from? How did Joseph Smith obtain it?" https://user.xmission.com/~research/central/resth9.htm
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7 years ago
randyj
From an old post: http://exmormon.org/phorum/read.php?2,1894103,1894785#msg-1894785 Here's what Bruce R. McDonkey wrote about it in "Mormon Doctrine": "PEEP STONES. See Devil, Revelation, Urim and Thummim. In imitation of the true order of heaven whereby seers receive revelations from God through a Urim and Thummim, the devil gives his own revelations to some of his follow
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7 years ago
randyj
"I notice you keep extensive archives. Do you happen to have any of my stuff as TBM in the early days of RfM on file? By early days I mean 1997 or thereabouts, when there were only 120 or so exit stories." I don't keep any such archives. The links to my old material which I post here are mostly from the alt.religion.mormon archives. The old stuff that Eric K. has archived from almo
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