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5 years ago
newmo
I've been a business owner outside of Utah for over 15 years and just recently located here for my wife's job. I realize that professional services, regardless of where you are, can be great or terrible and you have to do your homework, but this in the 6th state I've lived in during those 15 years and have NEVER experienced the level of apathy that I've experienced here. Some examples: - VERY
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5 years ago
newmo
What do you mean "their state"? Nobody owns a state. I am just as much a resident as they are; it is OUR state, even if I've only been here 6 months. I pay taxes. I vote. If they didn't want to be part of America and wanted to create a theocracy, they didn't have to join the union. In hindsight, they are probably wishing they hadn't. When you talk about "Mormon Standard Time&quo
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5 years ago
newmo
Tell me more about keeping wealth out-of-state. Why?
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5 years ago
newmo
Have been consulting for 20+ years. Have seen it all.
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5 years ago
newmo
Just moved to Utah from the east coast (specifically NYC and Pittsburgh) about a year ago and have noticed a disturbing trend in all of my interactions here: Nobody is reliable and everything takes FOREVER. Simple example: - Met wirh accountant to set up new business, took two weeks to get paperwork (took 2 days in NY) - Sidewalk sprinkler busted, took HOA president weeks to respond - Doctor
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5 years ago
newmo
Thanks for all of the great feedback! I think what I'm hearing is: 1) Unless they go to private school or Park City, my kids will not have a positive childhood experience in Utah. 2) Utah does not invest in public school education. 3) If our choices are between sending my kids to public school in the valley or leaving Utah, we should leave Utah. I get the whole "children need to lear
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5 years ago
newmo
Congratulations to you and bravo for your courage. My only input would be to try to get your kids out of it as soon as possible. It isn't fair to them to impose the burden of the church on them just to make things easier.
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5 years ago
newmo
Interesting, could you explain why? We were thinking that, at the very least, it wouldn't matter as much when they were young because kids were kind of oblivious to that sort of stuff, and that we could always move as they got older if we felt it was a problem.
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5 years ago
newmo
Thanks for all of the responses. A couple of additional things: While we get what has been said about private schools, we are both atheist and have no desire to send our kids to Catholic school, even if it is better than public schools. We also probably couldn't afford it (we do well, but not THAT well). I guess we were looking for the diamond-in-the-rough district that, while having a decent
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5 years ago
newmo
First time posting on here...thank you in advance for your responses. I didn't grow up LDS but married an ex-mormon (left years ago) and moved to Utah from the east coast recently (she already lived here). It has been quite an experience to say the least...I don't think I was prepared for how intense the LDS influence is here (I knew it would be bad, but not to THIS level). For context, we live i
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