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3 years ago
delbertlstapley
One of the frequent topics on this forum is: do the Apostles and Prophets know about problems with the book of mormon etc. Just saw a mormon stories episode about BH Roberts and his questioning of the Book of Mormon. Looks like all the apostles and GAs have known since at least 1922. https://www.mormonstories.org/podcast/b-h-roberts/ Though not addressed in the book about BH Roberts, th
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3 years ago
delbertlstapley
She needs therapy.
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3 years ago
delbertlstapley
Thanks for making my point. Feelings don't count in court or in science. They are not repeatable data.
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3 years ago
delbertlstapley
First of all, Evolution needs to be presented as a solid theory that was started by Darwin - not as Darwinism. Evolution and all theories are independent of the person that first described it. Evolution needs to be presented in context of the scientific method and after discussing the scientific method and clearly outlining the differences between science and religion. Science is based on
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3 years ago
delbertlstapley
Build a mall (billion plus) in 2008 while the rest of country suffers from one the worse recessions in US history. 1 billion - eh - no big deal. At more or less the same time bail out Benefical Life to the tune of hundreds of millions. You don't just spend over a billion during one of the worse recessions in US history unless you have _ _ _ _ ton of cash. Also, we now have 4 pillars of th
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3 years ago
delbertlstapley
It's been a while since I paid, but you can pay electronically directly to LDS Inc., and (at the time) my bishop had no way to verify, so if I said I was a full tither he had to accept it. We did it just to get a temple rec to go to daughters wedding. After that we were done.
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3 years ago
delbertlstapley
At LDS Inc., it's our way or the highway, so as long as the scriptures support racism, I have to say, yes. "And he had caused the cursing to come upon , yea, even a sore cursing, because of their iniquity. For behold, they had hardened their hearts against him, and they had become like unto a flint; wherefore, as they were white, and exceedingly fair and delightsome, that they might not
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3 years ago
delbertlstapley
Where do I start? Black people are the seed of Cain. The evil Lamanites (Native Americans) were cursed with a black skin. Black people are black because they were fence sitters in the pre-existance. In other words, you sucked before you were born and you still do. Black people can't hold the priesthood, at least not until LDS Inc was threatened to with paying taxes. Mark E Peterso
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4 years ago
delbertlstapley
The same odds as Moses parting the Red Sea, talking donkeys, 1000 year old men, Lot's wife turning into a pillar of salt, JC walking on water and evangelical healing not being fake. It's all bull shit!
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4 years ago
delbertlstapley
Dogma always tries to crush the truth. When the truth is easily available online all that is left is to obey the dogma and "doubt your doubt." My bishopric brother is great example. He is hyper obedient and rule bound and hates it when the church changes anything in the temple ceremony etc. One Sunday we were having a family party that he attended. We did not have the drink he wan
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4 years ago
delbertlstapley
Capitalism and the current economy we have where we waste vast resources and breed like rabbits is a virus. The current system gave us climate change and super charged inequality. It is not sustainable. Maybe a new system is better.
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4 years ago
delbertlstapley
Life first came (somehow - Big question) from lifeless elements. The elements somehow combined to form primitive life forms. These primitive life forms then evolved. It took 3.5+ billion years. This isn't even a debate. These are facts. Scientists like Stuart Kaufmann are trying to answer the Big question. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJwoHyJDVLk
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4 years ago
delbertlstapley
Why send out missionaries? Not only are they put at risk for corona, but what can they do. Can't go door to door or have gatherings or even got to chruch. In terms of LDS Inc thinking, missionaries are a big liability now. If people get the virus from a recently sent out missionary it seems like a lawsuit.
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4 years ago
delbertlstapley
Hate to be Debbie Downer, but had this been an EQ on the main parts of the Wasatch instead of a smaller fault, there would have been massive destruction. Hopefully, this is a wake up call to people living or working in one of the thousands of old brick bldgs in SLC.
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4 years ago
delbertlstapley
Sounds very spiritual. All you, with no one telling you the spiritual and other good things in your life are ALL from God. It's from the nature inside you!
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4 years ago
delbertlstapley
$100 billion - who cares if they have to prop up some stores. They will do it no problem and just for image if nothing else.
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4 years ago
delbertlstapley
Bee's knees Goes done darn easy and has a lot of liquor. Easy to get smashed.
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4 years ago
delbertlstapley
They can go over this list at the next Conference session and then hand out paper copies at church the following week.
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4 years ago
delbertlstapley
$100,000,000,000 That is the pile you are throwing your tithes on and how much Jesus has invested.
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4 years ago
delbertlstapley
If membership tanks they can still survive for a long time on 100 billion.
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4 years ago
delbertlstapley
God works in mysterious ways. Someday when you die you will know the truth. No one can verify it, but that is the promise of the religion business model. People pay you for a promise of an after life you can't verify. It's a huge risk with 100% uncertainty. Trickle down religion without any trickle. Doubt your doubt and Trust the Brethern.
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4 years ago
delbertlstapley
Spouse was in a fairly high position in a church owned company. All the upper management got a 10-20% bonus every year. I would not be surprised if GAs got the same. Last check of the year 10% bonus and 10% for tithes........
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4 years ago
delbertlstapley
100 billion in the bank and members clean toilets. You pay your tithes rather than pay for you kid to go to college. Leaders meet alone with your children and ask them if the parents are doing family prayer, etc.. (hey kid, your parents suck because they don't do family prayer - I say so because I am an authority). One true church....... Most correct book..... Jesus is coming so be
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4 years ago
delbertlstapley
My TBM brother freaks out when they change stuff. He wore one piece garments for years until they totally wore out because he could not buy them any more.
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4 years ago
delbertlstapley
When I was a missionary we were told by the temple pres that the string connecting to the cap was like God connecting to you and the p-hood. So much for that temple pres and his wisdom.
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4 years ago
delbertlstapley
Gotta promote the temples to justify the 100 billion dollar pile of tax free money. It costs a lot to build and maintain temples for when Jesus comes.
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4 years ago
delbertlstapley
I don't know of anyone that returned. In fact, from I have read, most people that leave don't go to another church. You realize all religion is BS. I do know several people that don't believe and pretend to protect a job or get along with family, but they are never really totally out. My Bro in law doesn't believe, but his practice in eastern ID is about 90% Mormon so he plays the game. Isn
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4 years ago
delbertlstapley
100,000,000,000 a big pile of tithing money benefiting only LDS Inc.
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4 years ago
delbertlstapley
Freedom by Jeremy Griffith. It explains why people do what they do and why people are so crazy. IT brought me a lot of peace. https://www.humancondition.com/
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