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7 weeks ago
markc
I didn't see this topic being posted; I think it's too good to miss. A devotional talk by Sister Dennis claimed that the church was second to none by giving women power and authority. The Instagram exploded with tons and tons of women in the church screaming "nonsense." Then many were deleted, and more complaints (I mean thousands). The church restored the messages and claimed it was
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8 weeks ago
markc
anybody Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- "we fight them just by > living." > I love this line.
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8 weeks ago
markc
summer Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I have never liked the word, "cisgender." I > understand that it came about as a comparison word > to transgender, but ... Just a few days ago I heard about a similar complaint. This is new to me; I had no idea. Thanks for sharing, appreciate it.
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8 weeks ago
markc
y u Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > "Calling all trans people brave removes > responsibility and agency from that cis person to > work as a supportive and active ally… removes > any culpability cis people hold for perpetuating > that hardship." > ... Yeah, it can look like she has issues, that's why I wrote my article. T
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8 weeks ago
markc
Nightingale Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Hi markc. I ... Thanks for all the comments! I believe you know significantly better than I do. Appreciate it. And I'll go ahead and correct the "Authored by a transgender herself" mistake. Again, thanks!
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8 weeks ago
markc
I have no idea how many scoundrels are in the religion business, I don't know if they're the majority, but surely there are many. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7y1xJAVZxXg&ab_channel=LastWeekTonight
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8 weeks ago
markc
Neighbor A Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I've seen missionaries tracting in my area. The > nametags LDS missionaries wear only provide their > last names, but I was wondering if it would be > offensive to ask them their first names. Are they > allowed to tell you their first names if asked? Hmm, when I served my mission (long ago), if pe
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8 weeks ago
markc
Hi all, This is my new article this week, titled "Don’t Call Trans People ‘Brave’,” Really? https://chumark54.substack.com/p/dont-call-trans-people-brave-really But this article has nothing to do with Mormonism; it's an "extension" to my article from last week (https://www.exmormon.org/phorum/read.php?2,2509613). I hope it's appropriate. If not, my apologies, and fee
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2 months ago
markc
dagny Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Very nice. > > Again, I am struck by your compassion and empathy > as you work through your discoveries. > > Willingness to recognize our own prejudices is not > as common as I thought. Thanks for the kind words, I truly appreciate it.
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2 months ago
markc
Hi all, my new article: https://open.substack.com/pub/chumark54/p/transgender-fear-empathy?r=1rk5hn&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&showWelcomeOnShare=true This is about my journey of growth as an ex-Mormon toward understanding and empathy for transgender people. Thanks.
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2 months ago
markc
Didn't I see someone comment that republicans like the Bible or something like that? I was going to come back and comment on that but it was gone. Or maybe I misread...? Anyhow, in case it used to be here, I think it's in most cases fair to say that. Well, liking the Bible is fine, but using it to justify prejudice is WRONG. I feel that many republicans are good people with integrity, b
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2 months ago
markc
blindguy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Put another way, like the rest of the animal > kingdom, we humans are ruled by our emotions. That > is the one truth religious texts (and not just > Christianity) continue to tell us, though many > fail to recognize it for what it is. YES. We need to be aware of it and try to restrain ourselves fr
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2 months ago
markc
bradley Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The biblical account reads like a revenge fantasy > screenplay. Well said, that's exactly how I feel too. Of course, I don't think we can be sure all the stories are not real, but at least I personally won't be so sure they're 100% true. Thanks for reading!
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2 months ago
markc
dagny Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > > Your comments about how people suffered also led > me to think about how animals suffer too, forced > into horrible situations. I can barely let my mind > think about the cruelty to humans. I just watched this clip, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VD8RCiicEQI&ab_channel=TheDodo A dog was ab
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2 months ago
markc
elderolddog Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > >     Using the word "design" in conjunction > with a critique of humankind creates what I > consider to be a false narrative. > >     Life is ... just life!  Using hindsight > to say one is able to see a design can be done, > but one is almost always going to appl
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2 months ago
markc
dagny Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Thanks for that. It was a hard read. I remember > being upset when reading it for the first time in > the Bible. > > How the Bible is still considered in any way > related to divine guidance or morals, I'll never > know. > > What struck me about your essay the most was your > compassi
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2 months ago
markc
My new article this week. Serious Warning: Viewer Discretion Advised. https://open.substack.com/pub/chumark54/p/the-sex-the-violence-the-hideous-d37?r=1rk5hn&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&showWelcomeOnShare=true It's a way longer piece than Lot's story. Though it's again from the Bible, the holy book, this is more graphic and brutal; way more. Thanks.
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2 months ago
markc
Lot's Wife Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Bronze Age myths collected during the Iron Age. > > ETA: > > Garden of Eden: reinterpreted Canaanite myth from > the Bronze Age > > Flood: Mesopotamian myth from the Bronze Age > > Egyptian Captivity: Bronze Age > > Book of Job, God in Fire (Daniel), sun as a > b
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2 months ago
markc
Soft Machine Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Nice article as usual, Mark. The Old Testament is > a collection of early Iron Age folk tales. As > such, it's interesting from a cultural point of > view, but as you point out (and Anybody's > wonderful example underlines), a lot of it is very > sick. In France, where I live, religion is banned
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2 months ago
markc
anybody Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Just who did they think Saul and David were? > > They wanted an Old Testament Bible story, right? > /s > > > ########## > > > https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/paren > ts-television-council-blasts-abcs-873531/ > > Parents Television Council Blasts ABC’s
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2 months ago
markc
Done & Done Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > "Or maybe this whole thing is just a tale?" > > I have long found the Bible to be a collection of > stories told around campfires before TV on the > order of The Real Housewives of Sodom and > Gomorrah. The protagonist God, the antagonist > Satan like all good stories have an
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2 months ago
markc
My new article. Viewer Discretion Advised; this is about Lot and his two daughters, we all know what happens. I talk about my analyses and opinions of the story; the article actually is mainly for readers who aren't familiar with the Bible, but I post it here cause experts surely are welcome to comment. https://open.substack.com/pub/chumark54/p/the-sex-the-violence-the-hideous?r=1rk5hn&utm
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2 months ago
markc
Done & Done Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Seeing someone write an article such as this is > such a contrast to what I was hearing and reading > as a gay kid in the 50's. Hard to describe that > long reaching impact. I appreciate what you > wrote and your article was excellent. Thank you so much for your kind words! And it must be s
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2 months ago
markc
cl2 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I read it earlier today. This stood out. This is > how I felt when I found out the guy I was dating > (back in 1983) is gay. It really bothered me. > > "I don't believe a loving God would create someone > to be a particular way and then condemn her/him." > > > I just wanted t
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2 months ago
markc
valkyriequeen Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > For those who are members of any religion > (particularly Christian religions), they do have a > tendency to not do any research of what or who > they so fervently believe in. I'm still surprised by how many people claim to be Christians/Mormons but never read the Bible/Book of Mormons. I mean, wha
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2 months ago
markc
Done & Done Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > So hard to believe that the Bible still rules the > world. Such a convenient book. Can be > interpreted any way you like. So much to choose > from. You can ignore the parts that don't suit > your agenda and you can tout the ones that do. > And you can claim assuredly that you speak for G
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2 months ago
markc
dagny Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > > It matters a lot because too many religious people > try to impose their views from the religious books > into the laws for the rest of us. Yeah, now it's getting sadder. What's worse is they don't see their own problems; as I mentioned in my article, they don't even see what kind of sex and violence
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2 months ago
markc
Lot's Wife Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Spot on. > > Religious and political faiths give people > permission, and often power, to control others. > Such faiths are a moral get-out-of-jail free card. Thanks for reading! Indeed it's sad that now so many people use religion and beliefs of their own interpretations to get power.
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2 months ago
markc
Betty G Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > > I agree with your article, but I don't feel it > addresses why people who say it doesn't condemn > homosexuality are saying it doesn't condemn it. > > They aren't disagreeing that the English > translation does so, but that the English > translation was translated incorrectly and a &
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2 months ago
markc
Soft Machine Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > It's a good article and I like your approach, > which is measured and reasoned. I shall continue > reading :-) Thanks for the kind words! Truly appreciate it.
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