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elderolddog Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > As someone who has breezed through life, 99% of > the time completely happy, healthy and carefree, Lucky dawg!
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LW: "An understanding and acute empathy for other victims is often a result of having been abused." How true. We see that in Elder Berry and others who reach out to help others with an understanding beyond what the rest of us can possess in this regard. I used to console myself after unfortunate experiences by saying well at least I learned this or that. It did help me to think t
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Elder Berry: "Many people think it is like hearing. IT isn't." Amazing insight, EB. Poignant. I am going to steal it.
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"It all started when I was born". Haha. You're a funny guy, EB. I love your posts. You're a good writer. Your family history and young life experiences are certainly colourful, to say the least. They hurt you and I'm so sorry for that. You know how they say that pain creates great art? Maybe you could be "Cheryl 2" and write a book about your life to date, giving us the
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Lot's Wife: "...water lilies: plants that arise from mud and filth to bloom in stunning beauty and purity." Wow, LW, that brought tears to my eyes. So beautiful. Elder Berry: Your words on this topic are eloquent, your willingness to discuss it undoubtedly so helpful to many. If we haven't gone through a certain experience ourselves it can be difficult to imagine it or understa
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I'm positive that a significant number of missionaries I knew (and I had met most of those in many zones) had doubts, questions, misgivings, and weren't enjoying their missions all that much. Could have had something to do with a singularly uninspired and joyless MP but it was more than that. They were meeting ordinary folks (aka nevermos) who were perfectly happy not being Mormon, with no desire
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jacob Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I'm not so sure that that person was a troll, as > much as he was ill. There is always that, jacob. Too, we're asked to avoid labelling people trolls. The only ones who could possibly know for sure would be Admin (or anybody who knows said person IRL, potentially). Unfortunately, whatever the truth about any situat
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I observe the back-and-forth on the political scene too. Re posts that are acceptable vs unacceptable, which I often analyze, (1) the author of a thread is asked to relate the topic directly to Mormonism and (2) we're asked not to be partisan in our comments (a difficult challenge, I know). The trick it seems is not to get too riled up with hot button issues (especially those only indirectly r
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Yeah, all too many people wish they grew up differently. Too bad many have to spend the rest of their lives dealing with the initial imprints (duckling style). Mandatory parenting classes prior to conception anybody?
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While of course a troll-free board is most desirable and nobody likes feeling they've been played, on the up side many other people are undoubtedly helped by reading comments by so many RfMers who unstintingly and unfailingly reach out regularly to help others. I really enjoy reading all the contributions. Too, the wide array of subjects keeps things interesting - music, books, philosophy, scienc
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Adam. Good list. I don't think you were "blocked". Why do you think so? Blocked means you can't get in to post. Here you are posting! So, by definition, not blocked. Serious question: Can you print out your list and refer to it so you can see your progress, even though it may feel at times that you are going backwards or have never improved? It pays to spend time in introspect
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babyloncansuckit Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > It’s the ethic that’s created by the stories that matters, not the actual stories. I could tentatively agree with this, to a degree. >I think of them as true lies. Eek. Sounds like the same realm as "alternative facts". Lies are the total opposite of truth. How can they be equivalent
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Fair enough, AmyJo. You have much more experience with it than I do. I was thinking mainly of using RfM as a measure of how many exmos are agnostic/atheist, which of course is not a true objective sample. I wouldn't say, though, that atheists "believe in nothing". :) I know you meant don't believe in God. Two different things. :P Through my years at RfM I've thought much about
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I think we're more in agreement in general than not, bd. But, again, it depends on your definition/interpretation of preaching. I don't see that an atheist is preaching by saying what they used to believe and what their new conclusions are now. Others see it differently as preaching. I just see it as stating facts about what they do or do not believe post-mo. My point about fairness is that, a
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Thank you, Elder Berry. Enlightening. We do tend to put everything into little boxes. Generalizations and stereotypes abound. It is hard for many to comprehend what abuse/sexual abuse is about if they have not come across it or experienced it themselves or with someone close to them. It is shocking to me to begin to comprehend how prevalent it has been in our society. We do tend to
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The point would be to maintain some objectivity and rationality as well as understanding where others are coming from. I just wanted to say that if the board's focus is NOT to preach or push any religion, which is understandable in this context, then the question of "fairness" is moot. Again, it is a subjective conclusion that an atheist who is stating what they believe post-Mormo
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bona dea Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > As long as atheists are free to discuss their > beliefs and world views, it is only fair that > religious people should also feel free to do the > same. I get what you're saying, BD. But it's not necessarily so in this forum. It's about leaving a controlling, all-encompassing religion that has severely
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Amyjo Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I don't think it's nonsense. > > Look at all the ex-Mos on this board who became > atheist or agnostic. You don't find nearly as many > ex-Mos who remain believers. AmyJo, I don't think you can extrapolate the RfM sample to reach such a conclusion. First, the number of actively posting exmos on this b
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Fun to do it twice. No fireworks here tonight tho. Enough on the 1st.
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We're happy to be your neighbours still. Glad you're getting a day to celebrate. We just had our birthday (151 yrs since our Confederation) but there's an argument that we're much older. For now, our official # is much less than yours. Seems kind of incredible to be so relatively young. We've lost military personnel in all the wars as well, including Vietnam, although we weren't in it of
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elderolddog Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I am not a fan of disseminating information about > alternative choices to mormonism, but I suppose > that enthusiasts of what they've found after > mormonism have to be tolerated, if that is the > accepted standard. Hi EOD. I don't interpret the standard that way. I think what it means is that
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Oh yes, I remember now, kentish. Thanks. Yes, that would have been disaster. I will check out the music you mention. (Not overboard at all!) I love QEII but have often thought they could have a more inspiring, longer national anthem with added depth. I will listen to the music when I get another break from work and will return and report. :)
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It was a nailbiter for sure kentish. I was just peeking through my fingers after England missed their penalty shot. When their next kick went in that's when I killed my throat with an expected war whoop that spontaneously erupted. Yes, re red card. That was unbelievable. I also didn't like all the tripping and shoving. I'm glad for the player who said he knew he had to get his penalty kick
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Wow. What a finish. Stuff of fairy tales. I always wish, though, that they would just score in the game. Build up a lead. So I can relax. Lots of England spectators supping mightily from huge mugs of beer. Part of the thrilling atmosphere. "How's your heart?" asked the announcer towards the end. Kicking. Squirming. Spurting. Pounding. A good workout! I love the tune of L
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