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8 years ago
Doubting Thomas
This site is a great resource on the first vision: http://firstvisiontimeline.com/#0
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8 years ago
Doubting Thomas
Context is everything in studying the various versions of the First Vision. The dates When the versions were presented. Who were they given to and for what purpose? Most important, what was happening with the evolving doctrines of Mormonism when the version was found/prepared/presented to the church and public? Remember, the first printing of the Book of Mormon held a trinitarian view of
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8 years ago
Doubting Thomas
No way, not in modern-day Mormonism. 185 years ago or during the Utah pioneer period–maybe. See topics associated with "Lying for the Lord." Today, there is no doctrine or drive to cheat non-members, but my own personal experience is this: The most deceptive men I've ever met in business were Mormons, and typically they were cheating OTHER Mormons.
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8 years ago
Doubting Thomas
I've got your back Dave. I am awaiting the Mormonism equivalent of "Going Clear" and believe it can be every bit as FREAKY in beliefs and how they treat members.
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8 years ago
Doubting Thomas
What a fraud. What a weak minded man. He's no different than the average Mormon, he knows very little about very little. "Stay with the Lord. Stay with the Gospel ." Hey Holland, both of these things have NOTHING to do with Mormonism. Raising your voice. Yelling and threatening members. What a joke. There is nothing spiritual about this jackass.
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8 years ago
Doubting Thomas
Remember that scene in the movie "The Incredibles" where they are in that RV ready to make their exit and the kids ask Mr. Incredible if they are there yet... His response: "We get there when we get there!" Look, everyone who leaves Mormonism behind does it when they get there. Until then, just like most us when we were TBM's we justify just about anything TSCC does!
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8 years ago
Doubting Thomas
Another reason to conclude TSCC is nothing but, The So-Called Church. PR people issuing press releases. University officials being interviewed by... other university officials. That's so crazy! It reminds me of when general authorities want to make a doctrinal point and who do they quote? Another general authority. Where is the fucking prophet? Why doesn't he lead and speak for the Lord's chu
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8 years ago
Doubting Thomas
Just remembering what he learned in the house of his lord. Prior to his last endowment session he was reading in the Doctrine & Covenants... Section 132.
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8 years ago
Doubting Thomas
Yeah, this is not good for LDS, Inc. and it will clearly be seen as a policy (I mean revelation) backfire.
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8 years ago
Doubting Thomas
Where's MILF and Mature. That's where it's at baby!
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8 years ago
Doubting Thomas
Brigham Young was so racist that renaming the university would be appropriate. If I was a black athlete, I wouldn't compete against any BYU team. Rename the university immediately to: Joseph Smith University and watch how fast enrollment drops like a rock... in a hat. (I had to edit to add that.)
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8 years ago
Doubting Thomas
All of the other bizarre points in the honor code need to be exposed as well...
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8 years ago
Doubting Thomas
Mormon women dreaming of sister wives? Let me just be clear right here. If I had multiple wives, you can bet we'd be doing threeways etc., and don't even TRY and tell me that was not part of Mormon polygamy.
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8 years ago
Doubting Thomas
... "or get busy dyin. That's God damn right." Red
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8 years ago
Doubting Thomas
Mormon tribalism is one of the ugliest parts of the cult/religion and it has been getting them in trouble for almost 200 years.
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8 years ago
Doubting Thomas
You'd expect step-mom, step-sister etc. At least it's not "Cartoon." That's just f&#king weird.
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8 years ago
Doubting Thomas
According to the following graphic, put out by an online porn aggregating site, Pornhub.com, Mormon's favor lesbian themed pornography. Hmm... I could speculate in so many directions with this information. http://2d0yaz2jiom3c6vy7e7e5svk.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/pornhub-insights-us-top-search-terms-map.png
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8 years ago
Doubting Thomas
My vote is David B. Haight. Unless someone can give me examples, I think this man was pulled in and just went along with the experience.
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8 years ago
Doubting Thomas
If Mormons really want to blow their minds they need to look at the porn sites STRICKLY dedicated to Mormons. I won't give them here, but a simple Google search will provide the URL for both. Garments are front and center in each preview. Personally, that last thing I want to see in my porn is a woman wearing garments, but I'm sure in central Utah it's preferred. Sorry - Just checked out th
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8 years ago
Doubting Thomas
Regarding caffeine, in 2012 when Mitt Romney was in the news every day people were wondering why he was drinking Diet Coke and why his favorite flavor of ice cream was "coffee." http://www.cbsnews.com/news/for-romney-no-coffee-but-coffee-ice-cream/ To counter these questions the LDS Newsroom put out the following clarification: Finally, another small correction: Despite what
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8 years ago
Doubting Thomas
A church led by a majority of lawyers, doctors, and dentists, whom by reputation typically believe they are right about everything, inside and OUTSIDE of their profession, is bound to be doctrinally weak. "Because I said so" is their typical response when shown to be incorrect.
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8 years ago
Doubting Thomas
This statement will be coming soon... "Of course, we compensate the top leaders of the church. They dedicate their lives to the church during the highest peak of their income earning years. They can't do it for free. Would you do it for free?" Until LDS, Incorporated opens its books it is open to every criticism that can be leveled. Fraud, abuse, tax evasion you name it. Power and se
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8 years ago
Doubting Thomas
... And the more the porn campaign is connected to masturbation the more extreme Mormonism will look. That's a good thing for people who will be exposed to it and need an accurate picture of its absurdity in the modern world.
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8 years ago
Doubting Thomas
I truly don't know but looking at pictures on the Internet shows this man in proportion to other humans. It is bizarre. I wonder what he does with himself these days?
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8 years ago
Doubting Thomas
He got about as much press is Jimmer whatever...
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8 years ago
Doubting Thomas
http://www.mormonnewsroom.org/facts-and-statistics 74,079 missionaries. Doesn't detail how many from the United States or how many are male/female, or how many are adult couples running the finances and motor pools. This is an American church with a presence around the world. Safe to say 75% or more are from the United States.
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8 years ago
Doubting Thomas
Mike's books are bigger than a textbook because he cites sources like he's preparing for a trial. One. Thorough. Dude.
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8 years ago
Doubting Thomas
Hispanic branches are created and then converted to a ward all over the United States when a certain standard of leadership and attendance is met. Does this trigger a new unit and a closed unit?
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8 years ago
Doubting Thomas
There is a book coming out in the next month or so by Michael Quinn on the finances of the Mormon Church. You can pre-order the book on Amazon now. The title is "The Mormon Hierarchy: Wealth and Corporate Power" and I hope it sheds light on top leader compensation. It is a lie to say these men are not compensated. They hide behind words that all point to remuneration for their time
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8 years ago
Doubting Thomas
Exactly. They return and report to their line leaders, and those line leaders return and report to the bishop.
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