Yes. I have no fear of speaking up now. If I hear bullshit and its in a situation safe for me to say bullshit without offense then I do so. Other wise it's 'bull' or ridiculous, or fallacious, or non sequitur, or that one thing you tried to compare is not like the other. When I call bullshit or use any other 'I call you on that!' words I always follow it with "Here's why".
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40 years. It was the lack of information among other things. When information came that things might not be what they seemed, the flood gates opened. The omissions were vast and covered every subject. Geology, Science, Religious history. Religious persecution in America killed and destroyed more than in Mormon historical persecution. They actually shot cannon at each other for Pete's
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"She said "your still a member like it or not" " I don't think that applies to my audience ." Perhaps start the lesson with the above. Is the church like the mafia of a drug cartel? Doesn't the 11th give a person the right to choose differently? Didn't the war in heaven also secure that right? This statement is exactly what Satan would say/do to force anoth
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Seems like,on this board at least,we have a high number of MBriggs personality types of INTJ, INFP, INTP, INFJ's. Some P-types get validation externally. Some internally. Some mix. I think personality type makes a big difference in becoming an escapee. Many stick with the church regardless because they validate externally with what is presented to them. They dont have that propensity or
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Helen. My sincere condolences. I will pour a glass of JW Platinum this eve in remembrance.
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All I have to say to your post is "You got it Toyota!"
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You lucky, lucky, lucky Girl! You figured this out at 26! I was over 50. Lets get one thing straight They are not living "The" dream. You have zero reason to be angry and every reason to feel pity. "all three of those roommates are married in the temple, devoted mormons with kids. I am mad! They were horrible examples and treated me like dirt. Now they go to church acting
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He never defines whether the mormon influence made him a better man due to him rejecting moronisms problematic issues or that he meant it was good and yet could not identify with it, which is not what is implied. Good and bad, mormonism shaped him. That is a reasonable conclusion. Very diplomatic.
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Although I think it possible due to retardation on the part of the brethren, I've nver been aware of such a thing in any of the wards I attended in 4 decades of membership.
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Not agreeing is not a crime. I think you just laid a very heavy item on her shelf. Kudos to giving her a logical and well thought out response. I wish I had that kind of patience in the past.
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If you have children that attend then the answer is flat out NO. The children should come first. The last thing they need is a non-believing Father to accept the position of Bishop thereby telegraphing to them that you are in all out support of the church. As far as my input goes the answer is no amount of rationalization is worth the value of the lives of your children not being free from
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n/t
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So you hit the "wall" have you? Good. Finally you see the true fruits of mormonism! Take a good look at what just happened. Your children will become exactly that which you saw. Decades of christs supposed teachings lead to that? This is what the final product is? Love, logic, empathy, reason all take a back seat to protecting the church, it's leaders and its doctrines.
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Its all good! Why? Because if the wife is not already doing it when she breaks out the checkbook to pay tithing its going to come back full force. She will be muttering who knows what under her breath as her fingers begrudgingly finish the needed movements. Now is the time to tell her what well to do men get in compensation while members are told over the pulpit and in church literature th
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Get her a copy of the original 1830 version. Have her read what GOB originally sent through the rock. Then see what she thinks. Maybe a present to her, a reward for being so BOM centered. If she doesn't see the issues it will still make her eyes water just for the hillbilly accent that GOB imbues into the pages from his GOBBLY accent.
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The correct term is "used up".
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I have and am currently supporting his work. I wanted to at least support the project until the letter is converted into all the major languages. I look at it this way. The CES letter is having a huge impact on the organization that lied to everyone about everything to get money, stealing entire lives and destroying what gets in the way of that end. So I will spent a pittance compared to
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Whats the hurry? Who set this schedule? Slow the truck down. You know the answer to your own question. You date mormons because its what you know. Now lets put that into good use. You know what a mormon is, does, thinks and acts. You know it is not good. or "true". So I propose the following to put this into perspective. See the variations of the Snake crossing the riv
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Yes, yes!
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CES letter or/and Richard Packham's http://packham.n4m.org/tract.htm What the missionaries won't tell you.
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From a previous post on this subject. Also many things have been said by past prophets espousing the same and worse if the time is taken to research. Clayton's BYU Graduation Speech Does anyone have a copy of the text to Elder Whitney Clayton's 2016 BYU graduation speech? My BYU friends think I'm making up the "disconnect immediately and completely" quote in which he tells gra
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Make it a quorum project to visit the ward clerk and find out how much g-damned cash went to SLC then meet to ponderize on why the hell they get $100 for an entire year.
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6 misfires, then 6 fired true? Even a ten year old would scoff at such BS.
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Like I always say, this ain't Sunday school. Thrilled you've reached that point. Enjoy the heck out of it!
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Oh the dichotomy! The churches actions are not lining up with truth and integrity in reality! This is how ex-mormons are made. How many in mormon history saw the dichotomy then chose personal integrity over the lds leaders greedy needs only to be shunned punished fired and in some instances "used up". Today the internet changes completley the isolation of such events and allows
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Blame this on cludgie. :) I started this rant and I had feelings that it needed its own thread. Forgive me. Other than for fun there is no reason to reason with Dan. Dan lost his right to operate in the real world when he advised the world that a rock a billion years old, dug up 200 years ago, operates like a modern cell phone when stuck in a hat using a human face to block light from
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It's Merry Hitchmas for me. Don't judge! Hey there's even a website for Hitchmas but that's over the top for me. I still can take the good of the hope for better future from a beautiful Nativity scene. Here a shot of JW black to ya Ron. My aging bones are hating the cold. As I'm freezing my ass off here in Colorado I can always remember,the Reprobate has it worse. Nothing warms the soul
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Yes! The foundation built with lies upon lies disappears. This leaves no foundation. So with some it it far to scary to fall into what they think is utter darkness spinning out of control. By sticking to the lie. At least it is a foundation and since our perception of that foundation is real in our minds the lie works. For me re-cognition of the lies and all that comes with it quick
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"Now mormons are evil for staying with family instead of paying for hotels?" You said that, not the OP. It is a reasonable assumption that the local economy may not make as much with this particular group of visitors. Will it matter for San Diego? Nope. Won't even be a blip. I remember having a family and paying tithing robbed us of what would be considered normal travel
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