I had a senior companion who counted any conversation we had with anyone as introduction lesson. "Hello!" "Hello!" is the same as sitting down and teaching about Joseph Smith, I guess. I was in Japan from 81 to 82 and we were right in the middle of the transition from huge, huge numbers of converts (the Tokyo South mission had over 1,000 per month as one point) to having th
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I was deeply depressed on my mission, and I think part of it was due to realizing that the Book of Mormon was preposterous. I remember thinking, “Damn, if I were to try to write a fake Bible, this is how I’d do it.” I don’t have that good of an imagination, though, so it would have been even worse, but that’s another problem. The mission president was no help at all, implied that it
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TSCC is trapped in that it claims divine inspiration and looking at its history honestly will conclusively show that there is no divine inspiration. The Big 15 know this so they are just playing damage control.
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I was so excited to find out that I was going to be "in the highest levels withing the church" or something like that. Then I found out so was everyone else. Oh well. I least I got high a few times in my life. They got that part right.
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I buried an infant son, and I don't see how pretending that I'm just super happy that he went straight to heaven would have helped me. You grieve. You find a way to get through it. With time, things get less painful. My mother wanted the TSCC to conduct the funeral for my son and I told her no. I don’t like Mormon funerals. I went to my cousin’s and it was just a Sacrament Meeting tal
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According to Pew Research Center in its 2012 survey, about 2% of the US population self identify as Mormon. That would put the number of self identified Mormons at 3.1 million in contrast to the inflated numbers pushed out of COB, which claims over 6 million. The 3 million seems to be fairly hard core, with high activity rates reported by these individuals. Most best guess estimates of active
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Thanks everyone. Both of my parents came from fucked up families. My mother had four sisters and they all were losers, several of them abusive, although not to the extent my father was. One uncle (BIL to my mother) molested quite a few girls, including a cousin from one of the other families. My father also molested one of my cousins as well. The uncle was discovered looking at kiddie
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Happy families were such a foreign concept that I never considered them to be possible. Meaningless words. Although we were so wrapped up in Mormonism, as we were the weird family in the ward, we weren't really accepted so I never had that kind of connection with the people of the church who are supposed to be so much better than the institution itself.
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I was born a 6th or so generation Mormon in Salt Lake. I grew up in a very conservative TBM family in the 1960s and 70s and my life was completely centered around the church. And, my father, a member of the bishopric, was extremely abusive, physically, mentally, emotionally, spiritually and sexually. Therapists have said that abuse just doesn’t get much worse than it was in our family. The f
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That's my impression. The problems aren't directly addressed. This is OK for people who just run into one troubling issue and want reassurance, but it destroys its credibility for anyone else.
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michaelm (not logged in) Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > > The Mormon church does not teach 8-11 year old > children about the stone in the hat. What do you > think would happen if a teacher did an "enrichment > activity" of having children stick their faces > into a hat and pretend to read from a stone while > other child
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Yup. This is exactly why I left. "We've got real answers. We're just not going to tell you." What a load of of BS.
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You can go nuts trying to make sense of what's written on that site where horses are tapirs and the plain and simple truths are not plain, simple or the truth. What they say makes no sense, and they only pretend it does. The argument that at Joseph Smith make have not worn his garments at some point in the past is overwhelmed by the fact that he instructed others to take theirs off. He was not
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The First and the Last, the Beginning and the End. I created the universe and all therein. But somehow, I am that I am to only 30%ish active members of one-tenth of one percent of all mankind, not counting membership inflation. Maybe I ought to get a day job.
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