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10 years ago
CrispingPin
I enjoyed reading it, but for your target audience, I think it would be more effective if you could edit it down. Once TBMs identity it as "anti," most will stop reading. If you can get to the meat (not the milk, ha, ha) earlier, and maybe get the J. Reuben Clark near the beginning, you might plant some thoughts.
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10 years ago
CrispingPin
I agree. The first time I read that essay, I was amazed. They came right out and admitted their “prophets” don’t receive revelation from God. “Church leaders believed that a revelation from God was needed to alter the policy, and they made ongoing efforts to understand what should be done. After praying for guidance, President McKay did not feel impressed to lift the ban.” Base
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10 years ago
CrispingPin
Yeah, I spent two years as a full time missionary, a couple more as a stake missionary, and decades of "every member a missionary." I'm finished with being a missionary--even an anti-LDS missionary.
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11 years ago
CrispingPin
No. I believe (and also hope) that when I die, that's it--game over.
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11 years ago
CrispingPin
Well, he'll be happy to know that I didn't leave for any of those reasons--I had much better reasons.
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11 years ago
CrispingPin
We've all seen how well polarization works in the political arena.
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11 years ago
CrispingPin
D&C 132:39 "David’s wives and concubines were given unto him of me"--"given" is the key word here. Apparently, the "lord" considered those women property.
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11 years ago
CrispingPin
Everything about the story of Korihor makes my head hurt. Joe, or Oliver or Sidney or whoever came up with that gem must have been really tired or really drunk at the time.
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11 years ago
CrispingPin
I agree. Lying seems easier, but there's no need to stoop to their level. Just let them know that you're not interested--not now, not ever.
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11 years ago
CrispingPin
2830. Re: Prayer
A significant moment in my journey away from religion was one day when a close friend of mine died suddenly and unexpectedly. I didn’t feel any instinct to pray on behalf of her husband and children. Instead, I immediately turned my energy towards doing something practical to help them (I helped them retrieve belongings, coordinate getting her car back home, and I sat with them when they planne
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11 years ago
CrispingPin
Agreed. I don't know that there is a god. I don't know that there isn't a god. One thing I DO know is that I'm done with organized religion.
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11 years ago
CrispingPin
The New England style steeple that was added a few years ago to the LDS chapel near me looks so ridiculously out of place, I could believe that it was done by an avant-garde artist trying to make an obscure statement.
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11 years ago
CrispingPin
Yeah. As much as I'd love to see TSCC collapse, it's not going away. The most recent events will push some fence-sitters away, and may scare away some potential converts (well, the few who will hear about it), but it's not going to be an epic event. The days of rapid growth for the LDS church are long gone, but the decline is likely to be gradual.
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11 years ago
CrispingPin
I've wondered if Wellsville ever looks at the replies to his posts.
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11 years ago
CrispingPin
It's because the church is true--the spirit of prophecy has revealed what teachings you need in the future.
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11 years ago
CrispingPin
Science is flawed only when it disproves the BOM. If there is a shred of scientific evidence that supports the BOM, we must embrace that.
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11 years ago
CrispingPin
Or at least that's the conclusion many people commenting on this article are jumping to: http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2013/11/131120-science-native-american-people-migration-siberia-genetics/ Maybe I should read National Geographic and pray to know of its truthfulness.
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11 years ago
CrispingPin
D&C 137:10 teaches that children who die before they are eight go directly to the CK. On the other hand, I was always taught that the purpose of this life (or at least one of the main purposes) is to prove myself by overcoming Satan's temptations. So, if you die very young, you don't have to prove anything, and you still get the greatest reward. Sure, that makes sense.
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11 years ago
CrispingPin
It looks like this question has been answered: http://exmormon.org/phorum/read.php?2,1284469,1284469#msg-1284469
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11 years ago
CrispingPin
The PoGP at lds.org still has the facsimiles: https://www.lds.org/scriptures/pgp/abr/fac-1?lang=eng
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11 years ago
CrispingPin
If there is a god, you're probably right. The problem is that every book that claims to teach us about god (bible, BoM, Quran, or whatever) all describe a pretty horrible being.
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11 years ago
CrispingPin
The god described in the Bible is not only insecure, but also jealous, vindictive, spiteful, petty, angry and mean.
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11 years ago
CrispingPin
Now that you no longer pray to have every meal nourish and strengthen your body?
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11 years ago
CrispingPin
Remember, the essays aren't scripture. Nor is OD 2...or anything BY ever said...or anything Mark E. Peterson ever said. And the racist stuff in the scriptures doesn't mean what you think it does. Stop focusing on those little "flecks" and just obey.
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11 years ago
CrispingPin
You forgot one regret from Saturday: not cleaning the chapel.
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11 years ago
CrispingPin
Stalin was a monster responsible for the deaths of millions, but he was nowhere near as bad as the "god" of the Old Testament.
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11 years ago
CrispingPin
I doubt that the reported membership will ever decline for several reasons. For one thing, there will always be more babies born into TSCC than members who die (remember, if you're not active, you're still alive, by their calculations, until you're 110 years old). Another factor is that the overwhelming percentage of people who leave the church don't formally resign, so baptisms will always far o
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11 years ago
CrispingPin
Here's how I assume most TBMs would rank my former callings: 1) 1st Counselor 2) Executive Secretary 3) Ward Clerk 4) SS President 5) Gospel Doctrine teacher 6) many others
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11 years ago
CrispingPin
It's much like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dp2Zqk8vHw
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11 years ago
CrispingPin
Before I answer, do I have the option of being murdered first? As I recall, that's the choice I'm supposed to make. ;)
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