Quote from "A Brief Introduction to the Universal Model:" The UM is written to inspire a different thinking about science and about how to apply scientific principles during the coming years, destined to provoke thought and arouse the curiosity of not only the science minded, professional and amateur alike, but every individual who simply wants to know how Nature works and why we ar
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SL Cabbie Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > In order to test members faith about the Jaredites > and the Nephites... Well that explains everything. I'm going to contact my bishop and get back in the water. All I need is confirmation from the Holy Ghost that aliens intervened to trick us. "Oh God hear the words of my mouth. Are you there? I can't q
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Mine was "Ode to Prophet Joe"
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Precision has always been part of my being. My career was in accounting, something precision oriented. Everything I do seems precision related. I am very obsessive about things, though I've never been diagnosed OCD. And the Mormon church took my inherent quest for precision and exactness to exponential extremes. Nuckinfutz is a perfect term for where I am.
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elderolddog Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > As I have tediously remonstrated here, I walked > out of the St. George temple that lovely Spring > day in 1965 with a new certainty that the mormon > church had no more connection with ghawd than did > the Iowa National Guard Sorry, but I need to be updated on this my friend. Did you walk out d
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sunnynomo Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I think there is a difference between the > traditional definition of "cult", which you have > listed here, and "mind-control cult", which would > fit into Steve Hassan's definition. I have heard > MANY mormons quote the dictionary definition of > "cult" while rolling
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not logged in Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I like Steven Hassan's BITE model for determining > when a group tips into cult status as the model > allows for a range of experiences. His basic > model is how much control does the organization > exert in the areas of: > > Behavior > Information > Thought > Emotions >
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Wait just a darn minute. What about those authentic accounts of human-alien hybrids documented in the X-Files? Fox Mulder made it all up? Say it isn't so.
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ificouldhietokolob Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I found a funny comment on a Catholic genealogy > site, where people were complaining that > Ancestry's close relationship with the mormon > church was resulting in Ancestry data being used > to dead-dunk people who in life were Catholics: > > "I think I'm going to write a letter
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The power within DNA
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In similitude of Letterman's Top Ten List: 10 - Men and women separated in the session room 9 - Seeing Elohim and Jehovah in the films who have long white hair and beards just like the depictions of Greek and Roman gods 8 - Putting on a green apron after Lucifer tells you to make one 7 - The four handshakes 6 - Having to take your slippers off to put on your robe and then having to
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Becca Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > why don't you vent in a word document? Just write > stuff down. Get it out.. > > or get a voice recorder app on your phone, or make > a video of yourself and vent. You can always > decide later whether or not to show anyone. > > it might help get things off of your chest. This is a lot
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^^^^^ This 100% And the animal shelter idea. And the UU idea. I've considered UU as an alternative if I ever wanted to do any sort of church again. Very inclusive and love based, not exclusive and judgmental.
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GNPE Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Oaks quoting Monson: > > President Thomas S. Monson summarized these > teachings: “We must be vigilant in a world which > has moved so far from that which is spiritual. It > is essential that we reject anything that does not > conform to our standards, refusing in the process > to surrender
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Maybe that was when the prayer circle was doing the chant. For that part of the ritual the audience sits quietly while those in the circle chant and make signs. When everyone makes the oath everyone stands, except those in wheelchairs, etc. I was an ordinance worker five or six years ago and I don't think anything has changed since then. BTW I resigned in 2014.
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A bishop I had once also made a very misogynistic statement. I don't think it was in a public setting like sacrament meeting, but I heard it nonetheless. He said that boys were more special that girls. He had six daughters and two sons.
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BYU Boner Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Tom, studies of long-term marriages reveal that > most couples have irreconcilable differences. > Long-term couples learn to navigate around them > and the differences can actually strengthen the > marriage through new opportunities. > > My deepest hope for you and your wife is that your >
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They have to be propping up their own faltering faith. Otherwise they'd keep their mouths shut and be among the quiet faithful.
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Interesting analogy. At least at the temple you don't have to look at a dead person. Yet some dead people I've seen at funeral homes look better than temple patrons.
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I couldn't make it all the way through this link. Bryan Fischer is so far out in the realm of rational thought it is unbelievable. I sincerely hope the big 15 aren't all this deluded. God (it/she/he/nothing) help us all.
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Tom Padley Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > My TBM wife keeps insisting that polygamy's main > purpose was to provide widows and unmarried women, > who she says outnumbered men, the chance to marry. > I very much disagree with her but I have no hard > facts or statistics to back up my stance. Can > anyone help me out here? > > We a
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My TBM wife keeps insisting that polygamy's main purpose was to provide widows and unmarried women, who she says outnumbered men, the chance to marry. I very much disagree with her but I have no hard facts or statistics to back up my stance. Can anyone help me out here? We are both reading the Essay on Polygamy in order to discuss it later. I'm disappointed in the essay but it does admit to so
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This is the Correlated Church's perspective of things in their imposed bubble. SLC is multicultural and exmormons have myriad views of Mormonism. Some soft, some medium, some hard, and some "I don't give a rat's ass." It's a broad spectrum unlike how the Correlated Church wants TBMs to be. I'm sure TBMs view things from myriad positions, but they are not allowed to voice their views for
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koriwhore Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > If there's any ONE thing that can debunk Joseph's > Myth, this is it.. > > "The biggest bombshell for some in the essays is > that Smith married women who were already married, > some to men who were Smith’s friends and > followers. . . . > > They would both be in jail
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ificouldhietokolob Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > What a great realization, Randy. > For both of you. > > I wish you the best moving forward with "new light > and knowledge" :) Thanks. You are one of those I'd like to meet face to face. I always enjoy your comments.
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the two of us believing differently. For our 47 years of marriage I've been going along to get along with her steadfast belief in the church. I have tried many times to gain a testimony. I have served in many callings. I even became an ordinance worker at the Jordan River Temple for a short time (until I couldn't take it anymore). Finally things were somewhat resolved between us yesterday. We
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Magnificent my friend!!
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Thanks!
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Done & Done Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Mormons are saying this after Bednar's famous > "There are no homosexuals in the Mormon church" > speech? > > There are no gay wards. With all due respect to > your wife, she is really reaching to let the > Mormon church off the hook here I would guess. If > they did have
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Ah. I didn't know that. I've actually investigated that church because it seems so inclusive rather than exclusive.
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