As someone pointed out above, they could have been lying--on purpose or inadvertently, as the tale of "translating" the BoM passed by word of mouth. Or, if the timeline is truthful, JS might have gotten his story firmed up and was able to spit it out faster and more concisely for Oliver than Martin, where he might have been more wandering and detailed in his inventions. Or JS might have
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Last weekend I found myself, finally, at Seneca Falls, standing outside the Methodist church in the rain, thinking about how much my mom would have loved it and missing her. I didn't realize it was so close to Watkins Glen, where I was staying for the weekend, or I would have gone sooner. When Mom came to visit me in Rochester years ago we could have gone there, after Palmyra and the Hill Cumo
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I applied to adopt a dog a little while ago after meeting several at the local shelter. So my Saturday's going great!
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At the large Catholic church where I'm music director, we do our Good Friday service (*technically* it's a continuation of the mass the night before) at 3 in the afternoon because that's what time Jesus died in one (or 3?) of the Gospels. And the Easter Vigil starts tonight at sundown, because then it's *technically* Sunday and so Jesus has *technically* been in the tomb 3 days when it was really
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I also just found in the same issue, a letter from William (Joseph's brother) to his nephew. In it he laments that the "Brighamite Mormons" are abroad in the world teaching "Adam-God," which he considers apostasy. He also refers to section 132 as "that forged revelation on the wife doctrine."
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Lake Tight disappeared more than 200,000 years ago. Do these apologists seriously point to this as "evidence" of Nephite civilization?
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Was just about to post this when the maximum number of replies was reached, so here it is: I was curious just when and in what circumstances and to whom Emma allegedly reported "handling" the plates under a cloth. Turns out it was in an interview with her son Joseph Smith III just before her death (1879), published by the RLDS church in a newspaper called The Saints' Herald. In t
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Brother Of Jerry Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Fortunately, the brakes are now being applied, > though not by religions. Population growth is > dropping like a rock, and just in time (we hope). While this is true in terms of growth *rate*, in absolute numbers we are still adding as many or more humans to the population every year (~81 million)
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In addition to the awful racism on full display here, something else has irked me since I first saw the video a few days ago. Specifically: "...why did whites have to wait 1,829 years?" Excuse me? Has Mr. Wilcox risen to his vaunted position without bothering to crack open a Gospel Doctrine manual or the New Testament? Mormon doctrine teaches that there was a "falling away"
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Chicken N. Backpacks Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > "While President Young was known to praise Black > people prior to 1852, he received an unrecorded > revelation, which he struggled to accept and > understand, and made the faithful but difficult > decision to deny priesthood authority, for only a > brief time, to black men."
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Because "math" is short for "mathematics." US: math|ematics --> "math" The rest of the English-speaking world: math|ematic|s --> "maths"
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Dear god, is that graphic a real Honor Code flyer? Looks like they're promoting unisex sweaters, unisex pants, unisex shoes. How long until unisex haircuts? How does that fit with all the BS about god's assigning everybody one of two genders and making it an immutable characteristic of our eternal souls?
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heartbroken Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > That's very interesting! Unfortunately the Mormon > missionaries have nothing of value to offer the > people of Bulgaria. I doubt the missionaries will > have any success, although as far as missions go, > Bulgaria would be a very interesting place to > spend 2 years, especially since tracting is
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[|] Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The problem now will be that if the next ROTC > commander is not mormon, how will BYU react since > they now require all new hires to have TRs - i.e. > they must be active (tithe-paying) mormons. DoD is > still not going to be able to require that officer > to be mormon. They can still hire non-Mormon
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elderolddog Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Are you a .223 guy or more a 5.56 kind? I thought I read somewhere that guns chambered for .223 can only shoot .223, but guns chambered for 5.56 can shoot both. So I guess 5.56 is the better choice for the apocalypse and we all have to scavenge for ammo, right?
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Funny that the aliens decided to hold it together with Earth rivets. They must have stopped by Home Depot.
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My candidate for Most Overused Mormon Cliché of All Time, as excerpted from my (unfinished) memoir: "I know." "There is a script for bearing one's testimony from which Mormons seldom if ever deviate. 'I know the Church is true.' Spoken with quiet authority, and sometimes just the hint of tears forthcoming, for greater emotional weight. 'I know Joseph Smith was a prophet.' The f
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SALT LAKE CITY--Representatives for the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, or Mormon church, today announced the re-branding of the faith's signature book, the Book of Mormon. Going forward, the church says, it will be distributed under the title, "Jesus Christ and the Christians: Christly Jesus Christ-ers in the New Jesus World." The move comes amid attempts by leaders to
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[|] Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > “The Lord may prompt a victim to recognize a > degree of responsibility for abuse,” states the > late apostle Richard G. Scott. “Your priesthood > leader will help assess your responsibility so > that, if needed, it can be addressed. Otherwise > the seeds of guilt will remain and sprout into >
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Palpatine 2024
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Dave the Atheist Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > There is no end to matter; there is no end > to space; You would think God would have revealed to some Mormon somewhere that the universe is indeed finite.
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Bateman: "Are you going to finish that?" Person: "I don't know, is the Pope Catholic?" Bateman: "NO HE ISN'T!"
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Oh Economist--you used the forbidden word! This isn't the "Mormon" church. They were never called that! The comparison to McDonald's is so on point, but not for the reasons Christiane thinks: -overly-corporatized product -designed to appeal to baser tastes -generates as much profit as possible -leaves customers feeling slightly sick
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Whenever I take the lord's name in vain these days I prefer the full "Jesus H. Fucking Christ." The church should go all in on the pomposity and insist that members of the press and media refer to it as "The Modern Restored Sacerdotal Church of Jesus H. Fucking Christ of Latter-day Saints and Apostles, Established 1830 Joseph H. Fucking Smith PS We Are The Only True One, Get Ove
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Rubicon Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > With all the big changes President Nelson has made > to the church people today think this is something > new. It isn’t. The issue here, at least to me, is not that people will always try and change things. It's that this building, at nearly 170 years since its construction began and 130 years since its com
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elderolddog Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > > >     But face to face, in the bishop's office, > the SP's office, and the COB, that's still okay, > right? Don't forget the MTC! Getting out of there took enduring more than a week of bullying interviews, starting with each member of my branch presidency individually and working my way up to
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I got into the Salt Lake temple without a recommend for my brother's wedding. No waiting room for me.
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Ah, yes: "inspired modifications" like... ...McDonald's will now cater the temple cafeteria (fee of 10% gross sales going to ChurchCo, of course) ...the whole building will be gutted and a new floorplan instituted ...along with the above, the entirety of interior walls and floors will be stick-framed for easier demolition and complete reorganization (and plausible deniability that
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Q is *one of* the posited sources for Matthew and Luke; the other is Mark, the earliest canonical Gospel (John, the latest of the canonical Gospels, does not appear to draw on Q or Mark, and as for all the other Gospels--well, most Christians don't even know they exist). That said, the Gospel of Mark only appeared ~40 years after the alleged death/resurrection of Jesus. This is all "frien
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According to this anthropologist's blog: https://www.andywhiteanthropology.com/blog/photos-from-the-zarahemla-temple-excavation ...they already dug around out there once. The children's beach buckets, all lined up while a bunch of adults play in the sand, are the icing on the cake here.
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