Mormons DO NOT have gay friends. They are either 1) lying or 2) delusional. I'm sorry but a person does not think their "friend's" very existence is an abomination. Or that they should be 2nd class citizens because they aren't as good as you. I have a TBM friend who constantly talks about how open-minded she is. I finally called her out on it - I said ya know if you were really o
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ExMorgbot Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The modesty thing was an issue in my ward. The > ladies wouldn't dare show their shoulders or upper > arms by wearing a tank (heaven forbid!) > > But how often did I see them in skirts so tight > they couldn't breathe? Or pounds of hooker-esque > makeup on? Or desperately hanging all over RM's
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My TBM in-laws are always throwing their money away on pyramid schemes. I've been propositioned twice now (one time for ACN, the other was Primerica). I don't get it. They've done so many, like starting back with Amway and Quiksttar and have failed every time. Yet some charasmatic dude comes along selling them a get rich quick fantasy and they buy it hook, line and sinker. They still haven
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I feel so bad for you guys! My TBM DH loved it when I ditched the Gs. They are just God awful. I can't understand how women can stand them. They are horribly uncomfortable (esp when you're preggo in the summer in AZ! Ugh!) Clearly there was no female input in the design. Plus no control over what you can wear, gah! Anyway... I agree with Piper. Express what you do like about her without the ga
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Fad from pottery barn. Very trendy in the MorCor, at least where I'm at. TBM women all decorate their homes the same here. It's creepy. Very Stepford.
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nlgigantor Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Hard to say. One thing I observed, living abroad, > was the local leaders, the ones giving out the > recommends, were far more lenient than those > stateside, and certainly much more lenient than > Utah-types. > > So my guess would be, that probably all "active" > members would
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helemon Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Question: Does he have a high paying job? Is > there a shortage of men to fill bishopric callings > or higher Stake callings? If people have not > become a high priest by 50 they are usually made > one automatically. 40 is not unusual, especially > if they are in a high paying career. This is t
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My reading comprehension is fine. If you go back and re-read your post you will see you didn't say you attended your daughter's civil wedding. I get that you chose to not attend because you do not accept or condone your daughter's choices with regards to the church. I just don't agree with those actions. I apologize for the "mother of the year" comment and for causing you offense
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Paying off credit card debt and building up savings. It's amazing how much faster I am accomplishing my financial goals now that I'm not throwing my money away to the church. It literally makes me sick thinking how much money I gave to the Morg. Worst. Financial. Decision. Ever. Forgot to add that we were able to go to Hawaii in March because I was actually able to save up for it. What's si
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Timothy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > "I can assure you that all the crap doctrine and > history don't matter as long as the church is > fulfilling some need in her life that isn't being > met" > > Tell that to the Branch Davidians and followers of > Jim Jones. > > Timothy I think you misinterpreted what I said
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Stray Mutt Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > So wanting to become a Mormon is a sign there's an > unfilled need in her life. I've never known of > anyone who yearned for the heavy doctrines of > Mormonism. It's usually because they liked the > story, the people, the promises of happiness. Or > for love. > > So maybe there's another
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honestone Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > This happened to me. My daughter began getting > pestered by a friend at 17...she shook it off by > 18, then allowed them back in by 19...at 19 and a > half she really told them she wanted no more > pressure from them....then we (ex and I) had a > crisis.... divorce and at 20 she let them really
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As someone who joined the church as a teenager I can assure you that all the crap doctrine and history don't matter as long as the church is fulfilling some need in her life that isn't being met. For me, my father abandoned our family and my parents were getting a divorce. My parents were so preoccupied fighting eachother that us kids were left to fend for ourselves. Plus, the boy I liked w
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I have a friend (well more an acquaintance) that is getting re-baptised. She said she wasn't ex'd but that her ward she was baptised in originally had lost her baptism records. This sounds strange to me. Don't they have all those records at the COB? Or perhaps her baptism record never made to SLC all those years ago?
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Anon Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > In our mission the leaders got results by > sayinng: > > "It's the unworthy Elder that loses his girl." Wow. Now that's messed up.
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Joined 1995 as a teenager. Disaffected 2008 over political and cultural issues. That lead me to do more in depth research on the church and after discovering the true history and doctrine, I was totally out before 2009.
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Tango Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Electronics Engineer, worked for Intel the past 18 > years, layoff as of Sept. I heard Intel was hiring here in AZ...
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SAHM with a law degree. Someday I'll reach my goal of being an attorney. Hopefully.
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I think this is great news! Keep the crazy contained as much as possible! I could NEVER live in Utah, even as a TBM I hated the culture there. Even that accent makes me cringe. *shudders*
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cl2 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > My special name, which I will be known throughout > eternity, is Lucy. At least it is better than > Huldah or Hulga. Even my ex said, "WHAT!" when I > told him the name "through the veil." That was one > of the things I looked forward to ALL MY LIFE is > that new and special name. I'v
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Skeptical Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Historically, the LDS church has experienced > poverty more than it has enjoyed properity. It > has been near bankruptcy and insolvency many times > in its history and has made it through. > > What I see is that the LDS church is downsizing > its ecclesatical side by laying off church > e
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> Just because black people were believed to be > servants in heaven, it does not mean only blacks > were believed to be servants. Anyone who does not > obtain the highest kingdom will be servants > according to Mormon doctrine. > > > > > Thanks This is not correct Helamon. It was specifically taught that even if Blacks qualified for the CK, they would o
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This post made me smile because I did the exact same thing! The day I purged all my grandma clothes was one of the happiest days of my life! I am horrified that I looked so frumpy during my 20's. Plus I'm really petite and the Molly uniform couldn't be more wrong for my body. Ugh. Anyway, I got rid of: All my long shorts Capris Undershirts/layering shirts from Impel, Modbe and all those Mo
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npangel Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The church has 3 types of people: > #1-White power hungry males who sit in the "ivory > office" and dictate to group #2 they need to be > doing more. These men have wives who generally > dress ice, but you are talking about 3-4 women at > most in a ward. Of course, these men/women never &g
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Ok I totally LOL'd when I read the subject line. I would found myself thinking the same thing when I went to church! I think it has a lot to do with where you live though. In my experience the Mormons in Michigan looked WAY worse than Mormons in AZ. Maybe it's the weather or dominance of church culture out west? In the MorCor (at least where I am) the members take great pride in their looks. The
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Yeah, I think they learned their lesson from BY and BRM to NEVER say what they really mean. Then they could actually be held accountable for it, and they DO NOT want that!
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I think BKP's talk will be the tipping point for many TBMs. You are not alone. Enjoy that glass of wine!
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shannon Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > THANK anontbm for his thoughtful comments. Great > journeys always begin with a single step. > > ;o) I agree. Cog Dis is a bitch. He's on his way out. I really appreciate the apology. Recognition from TBMs on just how wrong this is is few and far between. anontbm if you are still reading this thread
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sonoflds Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > You won the moment you decided it wasn't true. > > Mythology all. I totally agree. Arguing over religion is like arguing over who has the best imaginary friend.
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*shudders* this guy is totally creepy. Looks like a sex offender.
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