Excellent post, getbusylivin. That is an awesome story. Your conclusions are spot-on. It's an honor being here on RfM with you.
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Anybody, As a professional scientist myself, I've long wondered about how incredibly backward and ignorant of scientific principles the leaders of TSCC have been. Life forms on the sun?! Really, BY? Nobody will ever get into space?! Really, JosFieldingSmith? Even Tommy Boy Monson came up with one awhile back having to do with measuring progress...something like "...when you measure pro
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Good luck to you, Gatorman. Enjoy your retirement. Treat yourself, my friend: to a nap, to an ice cream cone, to whatever makes you happy...to life. All the best. -Ed
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To answer your question directly: I'd say that pretty much anything he has said in General Conference over the course of the last 100 years or so would qualify as "non-factual."
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I had an interesting scenario play out when I was a bishop in TSCC that went like this: an inactive morg in my ward called (I had never met him) and asked me if his deceased mother's cremains (cremated remains) could be buried in the same space occupied by another person in a burial plot...in other words, if the cremains could be "piggy-backed" on top of another dead relative's burial
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Greetings, everyone. I have convinced my wife to read both the CES Letter and the "Letter to my Wife" which was posted here on RfM. She said she wants to read the Church essays first, and then the two letters. Hey, it's a start. The elephant has been "in the room" since this all began a couple of weeks ago...it's very awkward and...well, let's just say..."lonely."
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That's exactly what I'm doing, getbusylivin. So far, it's going about as well as I could expect. Good luck, my friend. Keep us all updated and stay strong.
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It's a euphemism, Koriwhore, embrace it. Lots of constant opposition to truth and light, to put it another way. We all deal with that here on RfM: that's why we're here. Have a great day.
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I had an interesting thing happen in the Orlando Temple. I was in the celestial room with my beloved wife, sitting on a couch, when we decided to bow our heads in SILENT prayer. A temple-worker sister came over to us, INTERRUPTED our prayer, and very rudely said: "We don't allow prayers to be conducted in the celestial room!" WHAT?? We weren't vocal: we were silently bowing our hea
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Reading *any* version of TSCC history, does anybody else get the feeling that, like his predecessor JS, BringEm Young was a narcissistic egomaniac? We all know how important it is to "feel" in TSCC. To make even a small proportion of the outlandish utterances that JS and BY did is comical...but to compile them into journals and discourses is even more absurd. It's like comedic gold
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Good job, Felix. But it kinda feels like that salmon swimming upstream, doesn't it?
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So, what you're saying is that despite AoF 12: "We believe in being subject to kings, presidents, rulers, and magistrates, in obeying, honoring, and sustaining the law," this line of "greasing the skids" of government bureaucracy so-to-speak is perfectly okay. Nothing to see here, folks...move along...
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Hey, Gator. Things are going okay, man. Just wanted to keep you in the loop. I appreciate you more than you know. I'll be in touch. -Ed
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Mr. Happy, What an awesome example of bravery you are, sir. I have a child on a mission now, and another who will be "of age" in another year. Simply put, I cannot fathom, in an sense of compassion or true love, that a family member (especially parent) could shun, shut out, or be ashamed of one of their own. I'll be telling my remaining child still at home the following: "You
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No, but I like your idea of the water slide better than the way it's done now. Plus, we would have the added bonus of "Jowels" screaming at the top of his lungs that we weren't worthy! That just made my day!! THANKS!!
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Great handle, Babylon... You cad! What's HE doing in there with her? OH, BEHAVE!!
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Wow...that is so on-target! I've seen it happen many times: RMs in no way prepared to earn a living, immediately get married post-mission and begin pumping out little TBMs...and living with Mom & Dad in order to survive!
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Well played, Mike T.
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Praise to the Man, Hymn 27 "Mingling with Gods, he can plan for his brethren..." What did that 'plan' entail, exactly? Sending his brethren on missions in order to hook up with their daughters and/or lonely wives? Even the hymns of TSCC have the doctrine wrong. Maybe the hymns can be updated to reflect the further light and knowledge that has been brought to our understandi
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Thanks, Gatorman. I'm okay. I spoke to the bishop of my ward Sunday...didn't go so well. He had encountered one other person who had 'doubts,' and what was driving that person was an addiction to porn. I nipped that right in the bud, telling him "that isn't a problem for me" (and it really isn't). Nobody seems to understand that somebody could have legitimate, reasonable questions
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True story, but gross nonetheless... I was doing initiatories in Washington DC temple. It came time for me to sit on the stool (ironic choice of words). Someone had left a "skid mark" on the towel on the stool. The ordinance worker came in and looked at me as if to say "Why aren't you sitting down?" I pointed at the skid mark on the towel; the ordinance worker shrugged
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Sorry, incognitotoday...my heart goes out to you, Brother. Reading stories like yours just pi$$es me right off. Hang in there, buddy. You have people who care about you right here on this message board. Come here anytime...
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And yet I keep telling myself that if I work a little harder (images of Orwell's "Animal Farm" anyone?) whether at my church callings and/or my two jobs, then I'll be okay...I won't have time to dwell on the disbelief or the hell that I've been through at the hands of TSCC and its faithful adherents or the family that recognizes me for my true worth (I'm a paycheck: minus tithing and m
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Thanks, everyone, for your kind and comforting words. It feels good to be among people who are genuinely interested in me: my health (mental and physical), my sanity (or what's left of it), my future, etc. I can't thank you enough.
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adult convert, former bishop…not sure I believe it anymore… I joined TSCC in 1993 so that I could be sealed to the love of my life “for time and all eternity.” I love her, and our children, with all my heart. But deep down, I always had some lingering questions about the origin and doctrine of the church. Early in my conversion, I resented the way the church felt like it had to occu
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