So the frantic ride by McLean and Rockwell was about the approaching Army? or about Parley Pratt's murder? Also, Re: "Brigham Young also met with Van Vliet, the advance man for Johnston's Army at the same time the rider from Cedar City arrived "asking for orders about what to do with the besieged wagon train." Young's failure to say anything is noteworthy..." Do you me
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What would the army have known about the massacre as they entered SLC?
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I believe in absolutely NOTHING supernatural. But I do like the idea of having a "personal mythology" (Thomas Moore - Care of the Soul). You know it's not literally true but it gives your life an interesting point of view.
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After you stopped believing in Joseph Smith's physical encounter with God, what other supernatural things did you stop accepting? For example: Angels? Ghosts? ESP? Holy Ghost? Evil Spirits? NDEs? UFOs? Past lives? Superstitions like Friday the 13th, Lucky Rabbits'feet? Reincarnation?
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Can someone give a down and dirty timeline re Johnston's Army deployment and arrival, Mtn Meadows Massacre, Eleanor McLean/Parley Pratt?
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Well, I'll be damned. When I saw nipples and compass and square I thought you were going to talk about carpentry tools. I'm soo out of the loop
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In one of his John Dehlin interviews he related how the bishop asked him if he had sex with animals. Will asked himself incredulously, "You can have sex with animals??"
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The Pope receives an urgent message. "Good news and bad news, your Holiness." "What's the good news?" "Jesus has returned to the earth!". "What's the bad news?" "He's calling from Salt Lake City."
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At the pearly gates a man is given a chance to compare heaven and hell. When they arrive in hell the man is startled to see rolling hills, lush foliage on trees, flowers and green grass. "Oh no!" cried St. Peter. "The Mormons have stolen the water again."
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"Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards." ~ Soren Kierkegaard
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I notice Will Bagley isn't among them. What does that tell you. Director and writer Eric Young - any relation to Brigham?
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This is a perfect illustration of Jonathan Haidt's metaphor of the "Rider" (conscious mind) and the "Elephant" (unconscious mind). Thinking serves the emotions, not the other way around. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24adApYh0yc
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Introduction to Poetry BY BILLY COLLINS I ask them to take a poem and hold it up to the light like a color slide or press an ear against its hive. I say drop a mouse into a poem and watch him probe his way out, or walk inside the poem’s room and feel the walls for a light switch. I want them to waterski across the surface of a poem waving at the author’s name on the sh
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"Quinn" is a hispanic name?
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Quinn made a point that the tenets of the church see no line dividing the "spiritual from the temporal". In other words, greed is holy!
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Doug Fabrizio is interviewing Michael Quinn, author of this book on Radiokuer.org. Live right now but will be available later.
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"This blog details the most heartbreaking and heart wrenching employment experience of my life. I am writing about my employment experience because The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints has been notified of the abusive and hostile work environments that I worked in and protected the abusers while I was forced out of employment. I have tried to get someone, anyone, to sit down with
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Read Max Zimmer's books, "If Where You're Going Isn't Home" and listen to his talk at the exmormon foundation conference 2016. You'll get plenty of material. http://exmormonfoundation.org/files/media/2016Conference/05-MaxZimmer.mp3 (Introduction lasts 5 minutes).
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Wouldn't that make a wonderful setting for a horror movie?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixKannL-wls
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I think they both reflect the challenges thinking people have presented to tssc. Salvation from what? Endless torment and torture? You mean like floods, fire, brutality? On the other hand, happiness is in the heart of the experiencer and harder to define. Easier concept for tssc to use to manipulate thinking. Moral Agency? Porn shoulders are a stretch if you are talking morality. Free cho
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They forgot to show the cash register where you can purchase and rent all your holy paraphernalia. They didn't show the scanner where they check 'mark of the beast' temple recommends. I didn't see the "shame room" where the unworthy people wait for the worthy people to emerge, bound, washed, and sealed. And where do they keep those little slips of paper with the dead people's
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More than one primary? Unusual. If it's the Downwinders area, look into compensation. https://www.justice.gov/civil/common/reca Oops. Just reread your location. Ignore this.
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Meetings when you weren't home? I though that was a 'no-no'!?
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If you knew a young, vulnerable woman engaged to an "over the top" Christian man, who was systematically isolating from her friends and family yet so far has done nothing overtly harmful, what would you do? He has the earmarks of a control freak. He uses his Christian point of view to tell her who and what is good for her. My fear is that she will marry him. He will continue to contr
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On one historical website, I counted 21 names listed as participants in the Mountain Meadows Massacre who have familiar Southern Utah names. Some are nearly synonymous with the MMM. (e.g. Haight, Higbee) Given the extent of the practice of polygamy, there are lots and lots of descendants. How much do you think these descendants know about what their ancestors involvement was?
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Because when Jesus returns, he's going to give it to us anyway!
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If one reads the "shooters an clabbers" list of participants, you can go to the Southern Utah phone book and find those same names. Embarrassing.
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More brilliant that that far off light that emanates from the planet Kolob!
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I like that. "Thank you but no thank you. I have my reasons." If she persists, I have license to tell her what I know. Yeah. That works!
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