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4 years ago
schrodingerscat
https://youtu.be/Hi6yPJvCFU0 Great interview with the string theorist who came up with M Theory. I've never posted this before, except in a thread that got closed. I agree with Kaku (and Einstein) 100%. What do you think they meant when they used the word, "god"?
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4 years ago
schrodingerscat
Finally Free! Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > You are cherry picking the ones who have said > something that you can take to mean what you want. Bullshit. Einstein was perfectly clear that he was not an atheist and believed in the god of Spinoza. Sagan, Hawking and Kaku did too. https://youtu.be/Hi6yPJvCFU0
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4 years ago
schrodingerscat
gettinreal Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > It's NOT unfair to expect them to know before > hand... IF they truly ARE prophets. That is the > whole point of a prophet, to prophesy. > > Prophet synonyms: seer, soothsayer, forecaster of > the future, fortune teller, clairvoyant, > prognosticator > > Prophecy synonyms: predictio
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4 years ago
schrodingerscat
Finally Free! Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > You are cherry picking the ones who have said > something that you can take to mean what you want. > These are often statements taken out of context, > are contradicted by other statements, and/or were > meant as metaphors. This has been pointed out to > you many, many times. You are combining
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4 years ago
schrodingerscat
messygoop Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > It wasn't the Hinkster's style to even allude that > he had any sort of revelation power. I think when > he became the official dickhead of the church, he > downplayed every possible notion (especially to > the members of the Q12) that the church needed > more divine whispering. I think he kept his
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4 years ago
schrodingerscat
dagny Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > We know what you think. You've made that > abundantly clear. They use the word to mean things > that already have words and so do you. Fantastic. Great. I'm happy to be in agreement with wise men and disagreement with fools.
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4 years ago
schrodingerscat
dagny Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Also, it would have to be later in his life to > know what he finally concluded. > > I'm sure people could find quotes from me when I > was a Mormon, and then when I was a Christian, and > then when I was a theist and use that to validate > whatever they wanted if I were famous. > > My vi
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4 years ago
schrodingerscat
So you don't think anything is divine including nature. I do. I guess we will have to agree to disagree on that, but I agree with Einstein, Hawking, Dawkins, Kaku and Sagan and the Dalai Lama. So that's fine.
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4 years ago
schrodingerscat
Xenu Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I don't know if you mean before or after, but I'm > sure the First Presidency would have issued some > kind of statement about September 11 since they do > that about many major incidents and disasters. Bit > unfair to expect them to know about it. > > As for beforehand, I don't remember any specif
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4 years ago
schrodingerscat
Done & Done Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Nice. Love the way you handled that. > > I had a similar encounter at someone's door while > on my mission decades ago. Made me think for the > first time ever. Still took a long time to get > out but I always count that as the beginning--the > moment that made the rest of my life po
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4 years ago
schrodingerscat
Shummy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I get that same look of puzzlement when I tell > them I was so nearly one of them but for the grace > of gawd and Gordon B. > > Who knows if these tiny seeds we sow will take > root and gestate as they wend their weary way? This is the first time I really felt pity for them. They were younger than a
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4 years ago
schrodingerscat
William Law Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Nature is awesome, but it doesn't require devotion > as most people's belief of god does. Like Buddhists, Taoists, Confuscists, Shintos, Indians, aboriginals and every other Pantheist religion throughout history, that Mono theistic patriarchal religions co-opted and codified to control the masses? > I
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4 years ago
schrodingerscat
dagny Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Five smart scientists Not just "smart scientists," Geniuses. Einstein is the epitome of a Genius. He believed in a particular, non personal god. Much like a Zen Buddhist worships nature. > all in one post! Sagan, Hawking, Dawkins and Kaku all believed in Einstein's god, only one that played dice every c
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4 years ago
schrodingerscat
William Law Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > "Einstein's god" is not a personal god, or even a > self-aware god. It's more like nature or mechanics > of the universe, which does not demand oblation. > And how could it? It is thoughtless, passionless, > lacking in ego (it's a force and not a > personality). It's unaware. Unaware of
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4 years ago
schrodingerscat
Cheryl Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > We all are. > > You don't need to cite authority figures to > justify yourself. > > I do know that some exmormans have had their self > esteem damaged from being in a domineering cult > that requires members to accept leaders as > mouthpieces for God. Sometimes it's necessary to > lo
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4 years ago
schrodingerscat
William Law Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > "Einstein's god" is not a personal god, or even a > self-aware god. It's more like nature or mechanics > of the universe, which does not demand oblation. > And how could it? It is thoughtless, passionless, > lacking in ego (it's a force and not a > personality). It's unaware. Unaware of
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4 years ago
schrodingerscat
Finally Free! Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > >" For argument's sake, let's stick with the > definition that you believe is most often used in > mainstream Christianity" Why use that definition? What's wrong with using Einstein's definition? Which is the same as Sagan's, Hawking's and Kaku's.
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4 years ago
schrodingerscat
Elder Berry Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Appeals to authority without God feels like > playing dice. Is appealing to authority to give answers to questions given by the greatest scientific minds that ever existed? Got a better source?
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4 years ago
schrodingerscat
elderolddog Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Now THAT is Recovery from Mormonism!! Like I told my GF afterwards, "Wow. I was surprisingly calm." She said,"I know, especially since you're high as fuck!"
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4 years ago
schrodingerscat
Roman Bokovinoff Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Advanced DNA code coming into existence from a > non-intelligent natural source? Not very likely. Are viruses a non-intelligent natural source? They carry DNA inside of them, even though they are not technically alive, since they cannot reproduce on their own, as far as we know, they can only reproduce b
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4 years ago
schrodingerscat
jacob Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Apparently god can be anything, which means that > god is probably everything. I can't in good > conscious disbelieve something that vague and > undefined. So given my new found faith can someone > please answer me one question? Just one question. > > How the hell did you find out about this god?
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4 years ago
schrodingerscat
Tell him you will go once Mothers are worthy to join the Penisholders blessing her baby.
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4 years ago
schrodingerscat
Don't stand for ultimatums and don't issue them. He can expect all he wants, but until he can answer serious questions about the oppressive Doomsday CULT he was born into, he has no right to expect you to believe in it.
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4 years ago
schrodingerscat
GF told me, "The Mormon Missionaries are at the door." I said, "Record this." She did, After pleasantries they asked if we'd ever dealt with missionaries like them before. I told them I was them before, that I served a mission, married in temple, raised a family in the church but resigned after 9-11. They asked me why? I said, "Well, what did the Prophet have to s
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4 years ago
schrodingerscat
jacob Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The Church of Evangelical Pantheists. > > No requirements except for the suspension of > independent thought. > > Prophet Einstein would be proud of all of these > people taking his words and twisting them to mean > something else. " The fanatical atheists are like slaves who are still
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4 years ago
schrodingerscat
Cheryl Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I don't look to smart people to do my thinking for > me and I certainly don't respect the opinions of > those who appeal to this supposed authority. I enjoy reconciling the answers the greatest geniuses who ever lived gave to the most important question of life, according to Hawking, who wrote a book on that s
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4 years ago
schrodingerscat
The greatest scientific effort took history's biggest, most expensive scientific instrument, to see the tiniest particle in the universe, the God Particle. The greatest achievement of human history. We finally have a picture of what was once before, omnipresent, but nowhere. It meets all the qualifications of a divine creator, omnipresent, yet nearly undetectable, it slows down energy to create
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4 years ago
schrodingerscat
#1. I dont think calling yourself an atheist is stupid. Hawking called himself an atheist for Christ's sake. #2. I don't think calling yourself a Christian is stupid. Francis Collins won a Nobel Prize for mapping the human genome and he is a Christian for Crists sake. #3. Lots of people smarter than anybody here believe in god (little 'g')like Einstein. Even Hawking said he believed in Eins
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4 years ago
schrodingerscat
elderolddog Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > You need to end all of your declarative sentences > with: "...in my head". > > Then we'd all nod and agree with you. Seems obvious to me. I can't help it if its not apparent to you.
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4 years ago
schrodingerscat
"In the beginning was the Logos (Tao in Chinese). The Logos (Tao) was with God. The (Logos) was God." John 1:1 in original Greek version, before it got lost in translation into English. God, Logos and Tao are all synonymous.
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