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Posted by: intellectualfeminist ( )
Date: September 06, 2013 03:19PM

I heard about this piece of garbage from someone who has kids that are younger than mine. Seeing just a few pages was enough to make my stomach churn. It's not enough to see innocent little children being indoctrinated every Sunday at the local cult building. It's not enough that little toddler girls are now being "slut-shamed" with the modesty-obsessed bullsh*t that TBMs are glowing and crowing about. Little kids now have to be completely perfect ALL THE FUCKING TIME. Oh, and I almost forgot the best part: it was apparently written by an LD$ apostle's wife. I seldom post reviews on Amazon anymore, but this POS absolutely made my blood boil. You can see my review on the link for the book here: http://www.amazon.com/The-Not-Even-Once-Club/dp/1609073371

It's the one titled "Utterly appalling." The other reviews are overwhelmingly negative and condemning, in particular one by an LDS therapist who couldn't stomach it either.

"Trying To Be Like My Jesus", my ass. This is "Trying To Be Assholier Than Thou" and fucking up little kids in the process.
(okay, rant over now!!)

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Posted by: Raptor Jesus ( )
Date: September 06, 2013 03:28PM


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Posted by: adoylelb ( )
Date: September 06, 2013 03:43PM

I agree with what one reviewer said in that teachings like those in that toxic book are why Elizabeth Smart didn't want to be rescued as she thought she was nothing more than a chewed up piece of gum. It's basically "Miracle of Forgiveness" written for children, but the idea that unless you're perfect, you're totally worthless.

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Posted by: beyondashadow ( )
Date: September 06, 2013 03:44PM

History has revealed that Joseph Smith did not personally obey the Word of Wisdom -OR- the Law of Chastity . . . NOT EVEN ONCE!

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Posted by: want2bx ( )
Date: September 06, 2013 03:45PM

Wow, this book sounds terrible. It's completely ridiculous that a picture book for young children comes with a poster so that they can be reminded not to look at pornography.

This book actually sounds like it's a metaphor for how the LDS church actually operates. Requiring potential treehouse members to commit to rules in order to be included kind of sounds like what's expected in an endowment ceremony.

I'm curious though, does the book say what happens to the kids if they actually do something "even once?" Are they kicked out of the treehouse?

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Posted by: Uncle Dale ( )
Date: September 06, 2013 03:58PM

want2bx Wrote:
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> Wow, this book sounds terrible. It's completely
> ridiculous that a picture book for young children
> comes with a poster so that they can be reminded
> not to look at pornography.
>
> This book actually sounds like it's a metaphor for
> how the LDS church actually operates. Requiring
> potential treehouse members to commit to rules in
> order to be included kind of sounds like what's
> expected in an endowment ceremony.
>
> I'm curious though, does the book say what happens
> to the kids if they actually do something "even
> once?" Are they kicked out of the treehouse?

I'm guessing that the story tells about Miss Molly, who
went to the farm to visit Aunt MacDonald and go riding
on the old gray mare.

Molly later tells the bishop about this warm, tingling
feeling she had, while the horse was galloping about,
and how it left her smiling, weak-kneed and out of breath.

"Terrible!" Thunders the Bishop -- "You shouldn't have
that feeling, not even once, until you have been married
in the Temple to a worthy priesthood holder and are safely
tucked into your own bed!"

Molly begins to cry...

"Serves you right, young lady -- or, shall I say 'Miss
Cupcake, with the dirty frosting?"

This week only at Deseret Books: $19.95 with a free
coupon for an iced Postum at J.B.s Big Boy....

UD

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Posted by: Joy ( )
Date: September 06, 2013 03:49PM

If you become an apostle's wife, you can have a book published--regardless of what its in it--after it passes censorship, and is corrected of most of its grammatical errors.

One apostle's wife wrote a book for older single women on how to hook a man. She hooked an apostle, so maybe she was more qualified than most,

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Posted by: The Invisible Green Potato ( )
Date: September 06, 2013 03:50PM

I don't think the book is intended for children. There is a poster that you get a free link to that contains a word that cannot be repeated here. Translated into child speak the poster would mean "hey kids, there is lots of really cool grown up stuff on TV etc that you should look at".

I think the picture book is aimed at the less educated adults that make up a large part of the leadership of the church, which the author is most familiar with.

There seems to be an error on the release date, which says 2013, but nothing like this could possibly have been published any later than 1953.

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Posted by: notnewatthisanymore ( )
Date: September 06, 2013 03:56PM

Call me crazy, but I didn't see any words that couldn't be repeated here. Which was it?

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Posted by: The Invisible Green Potato ( )
Date: September 06, 2013 04:13PM

I couldn't work out which word it was :(

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Posted by: Surrender Dorothy ( )
Date: September 06, 2013 07:17PM

*whispering* The bad word is "b!llb0ard."

Here's the wording from the poster you can download for free (yay!) if you buy the book:

"From this moment on, I will never break the Word of Wisdom, lie, cheat, steal, gossip, procrastinate, dress immodestly, break the law of chastity, in any way. I will never intentionally look at anything pornographic on TV, the Internet, a cell phone, a b!llb0ard, or in a magazine or a movie."

Sister-wife Nelson needs to read this to her husband and emphasize the part about not lying, not even for the Lord.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 09/06/2013 07:18PM by Surrender Dorothy.

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Posted by: beyondashadow ( )
Date: September 06, 2013 07:32PM

I'm ignorant about the particulars.

I used the word one time in a post, which was summarily deleted.

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Posted by: ck ( )
Date: September 06, 2013 08:02PM

I love "I will never....procrastinate..."

Weird.

I love reading all the reviews. There was a review on FMh with an alternative story that is really top-notch, I thought.

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Posted by: Lenina ( )
Date: September 06, 2013 08:24PM

Another flaw in the author's good intentions:

Focusing on the things one will not do actually shifts the focus to those things.

Classic example: If I tell you not to think of a pink elephant, what's the first thing you think of?

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Posted by: dk ( )
Date: September 06, 2013 04:10PM

Maybe it was written for the singles in the church. After all, if you're not married, you can't be an adult regardless of age or accomplishments.

Did they need to know secret handshakes for the clubhouse and pay 10% of their lunch money?

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Posted by: donbagley ( )
Date: September 06, 2013 06:14PM

I was happy to contribute scathing comments as a review, though I didn't (and won't) read the damn thing. Horrors!

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Posted by: NormaRae ( )
Date: September 06, 2013 06:40PM

All I can say is that probaby 10 children were spared a lifetime of shame and self loathing because Ms. Nelson, who obviously has many issues of her own, did not marry in time to have her own children.

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Posted by: Cheryl ( )
Date: September 06, 2013 06:47PM

And some author falls for it to this extent. Let's hope few if any subject kids to this nasty book.

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Posted by: EXON46 ( )
Date: September 06, 2013 07:24PM

Whats it say? cliff notes please.

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Posted by: dogeatdog ( )
Date: September 06, 2013 07:32PM


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Posted by: CA girl ( )
Date: September 06, 2013 07:48PM

I wrote a review before I read the others - I was surprised at how pretty much everyone who gave it one star agreed with my main points. That it's damaging to children and is not what Christ taught.

Just out of curiosity though, I clicked on the 5 star reviews and thought it was awful that both reviewers thought everyone should start a not-even-once club for their children and grandchildren.

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Posted by: cludgie ( )
Date: September 06, 2013 07:51PM

I love the comment that probably one you wrote, "I gave it a 1 because I couldn't give it a 0."

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Posted by: erictheex ( )
Date: September 06, 2013 07:57PM

so glad she never had children

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Posted by: Raptor Jesus ( )
Date: September 06, 2013 08:07PM

They can also rape their spouses and imbezel the shit out of the companies they work for.

Oh, wait. They cant steal. But they CAN feel superior to everyone. That's not part of their amazing pledge that never asks them to think about what IS good or why something is right or wrong.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/06/2013 08:09PM by Raptor Jesus.

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Posted by: Hypocephalus ( )
Date: September 06, 2013 11:02PM

I posted this on another forum. This is an attempt to normalize children the very abnormal experience of attending the temple:

- go to a clubhouse
- share secret passwords
- make promises
- keep promises in order to stay in the club

Just as egregious as the above is the fact that this is a clear case of nepotism.

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Posted by: icedtea ( )
Date: September 06, 2013 11:16PM

"Books" like this one are a travesty. Sister Nelson is undoubtedly crowing about being a *published author,* as are many other Mormons who have managed to generate enough words to fill up some pages and bamboozle Mormon publishers to print their tripe.

This isn't children's literature. The pap DB prints for adults is not literature, either. Good literature should make the reader THINK. This little tome is the opposite of that.

As if this book weren't poisonous enough already, we have Sister Nelson decreeing that procrastination is now a sin (for kids, anyway). Who put her on the God committee?

What we should be teaching those kids is: critical thinking skills, the right to question authority figures, and how to make their own decisions about what they eat, drink, wear, say, view, and do.

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Posted by: Surrender Dorothy ( )
Date: September 06, 2013 11:30PM

Speaking of procrastinating, it's a tad ironic because Sister Nelson (the 2nd) kind of procrastinated the whole getting married thing. It's a woman's own business when or if she gets married, but there is a prescribed order of things for good Mormon women. Sister Nelson is on a mighty horse as she peers down at all the lot of us from her all-glass house.

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Posted by: A ANON ( )
Date: September 06, 2013 11:22PM

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God's law: "One strike and you're out!"


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Posted by: rainwriter ( )
Date: September 06, 2013 11:32PM

Oh gosh... did you guys see what this has with it on Deseret Book?

http://deseretbook.com/pdf/Not_Even_Once_Certificate.pdf

Awful!

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Posted by: rainwriter ( )
Date: September 06, 2013 11:44PM

More talk about just pornography than every other sin combined!

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Posted by: CA girl ( )
Date: September 07, 2013 12:02AM

We need to make up one of these certificates, especially for Sister Nelson, that replaces all the "sins" with the word "orgasm." Because I'm pretty sure she's in the Not Even Once Club on that subject. And I'm guessing that's her problem.

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Posted by: David Jason ( )
Date: September 06, 2013 11:36PM

Author's Bio

Wendy Watson Nelson holds a Ph.D. in family therapy and gerontology. Prior to her marriage to Elder Russell M. Nelson, she was a professor of marriage and family therapy for twenty-five years. Sister Nelson has served as a stake Relief Society president, stake Primary president, and chaired the BYU Women’s Conference. Currently, she is an institute instructor and visiting teacher. Sister Nelson was born in Raymond, Alberta, Canada, to Leonard David and Laura Byrde McLean Watson. For a complete list of Sister Nelson’s books and CDs, visit DeseretBook.com.

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Posted by: sha'dynasty ( )
Date: September 06, 2013 11:41PM

I actually want to throw up.

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Posted by: ZIP ( )
Date: September 06, 2013 11:45PM

...... The Mormon Church will never intimidate US again!......

...... "RFM - WE ARE THE ONLY TRUE NOT EVEN ONCE CLUB" ......

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Posted by: fluhist ( )
Date: September 06, 2013 11:47PM

I mean even a person with half a brain can see that all that is too much for an 8 year old!! I think as a 16 year old I would have 'read quickly' over some of it. Hell as a 61 year old I am saying "YEAH RIGHT!!". So I hope they take it off the shelves before it messes a lot of little kids up!

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Posted by: rainwriter ( )
Date: September 06, 2013 11:52PM

But not before lots of people get their hands on it for proof.

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Posted by: Crud ( )
Date: September 07, 2013 12:00AM

"Not even once!" really means ........ Guaranteed failure.

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Posted by: dogeatdog ( )
Date: September 07, 2013 12:25AM

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Posted by: Cali SAlly ( )
Date: September 07, 2013 12:14AM

Appropriate for a seven year old? Not! Producing guilt at that age is obviously damaging. Most seven year olds would indulge in most of those behaviors accidentally or under pressure rather than on purpose and then when they realized it....guilt. Way too sad.

Can't believe this woman was a practicing psychologist. Pity her clients.

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Posted by: Poopedf ( )
Date: September 07, 2013 12:21AM

Kids of age seven must be a lot more sophisticated these days. I don't think I even knew what the word pornography meant at that age. Nor did I have any idea how to get my hands on drugs. My parents actually took the shame out of alcohol by letting me taste their cocktails at parties and I hated the taste. Still don't drink today. That book is a waste of trees.

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