Anyone plan to do "testimonkey" at EXmo Conf. in SLC by starting (like they do in AA) by saying, "my name is XXXX and I am a janitor." or . . .
In years to come will this be a devisive thing on RfM where the Reformed Janitors will say the old timer PJs (Pre-Janitors) had it so easy waltzing in with the place clean.
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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/04/2011 10:43AM by Jerry the Aspousetate.
I was already well on my way out when the restroom edict came. My only remaining calling was clean-up crew captain. It amounted to once every other month for one Saturday morning-no big deal really, when its just vacuuming and setting up chairs, and cleaning windows. 1 hour on a good turnout, or 2 hours if only a few people showed. When the letter came that added the restroom duties, I emailed the Bishop and told him I was done as far as that calling went. It came as no surprise to him, he already knew I was on my way out of activity.
For fence-sitter NOM types, I'm sure it caused some more thinking at the very least. I know that of one other captain in my ward that has since faded off the scene, but I couldn't say why. For people like me, you could say it was one of the last straws that broke the camel's back.
The cleaning policy was my salvation. Wondering how other members around the world were feeling about this stupid new rule, I decided to google...... and within two minutes I had found this site and the rest is history.
Being forced? That's another matter. I would never join or remain in a church with that expectation, not if they expected it of me or of any fellow congregant.
Prop 8 was (i thought) unusually low. We're not to talk "politics" here, so I won't even mention the various political and pseudo-political figures that sully the image of the church even worse than years of membership can. Sometimes it makes me angry, mostly it makes me sad. I'm pretty sure it's indefensible, which is the part I get angry about, as people do try. Sad.
My parents really needed the job (Dad was school teacher, 12 kids, sahm).
Anyway, my dad acted like it was no big deal, but it hit them like a ton of bricks. This all happened when they were supporting 2 of my brothers on mormon missions.
The church takes and takes and people like my parents get screwed over.
You can find the original posting in the archives. Just click search and enter my moniker in the search by author field and look for a post titled, "By popular demand, scans and transcripts.. "
BTW... The use of certain chemicals for cleaning in the UK by people not qualified or trained in their use might be in breach of the COSH (Control of Substances Hazardous to Health) regulations.
Everyone knows that -for example- The Church of England and the Catholic Church own a lot of land and have shares in businesses. Over the years people have donated land, property and company shares because they felt it was the right thing to do. But the operation of these business affairs is kept separate from the Church. The Church of England has the Church Commissioners to do this. The money is used to help fund the wages of vicars, youth outreach pastors, etc.
So people do not mind being asked to help clean the church. Though many do employ a cleaner. Especially larger churches, cathedrals, etc., were janitors and staff are employed to look after the fabric of the buildings, grounds, etc. Churches also have flower rotas for arranging flower displays, etc.
But there seems to be no separation of church and business in TSCC. But it is interesting to know that it is TSCC that abuses the good nature of it's members.
TSCC do not want volunteer helpers, they want pressed labour.