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Posted by: anybody ( )
Date: December 16, 2013 09:58PM

Do any of you remember seeing this pamphlet when it was first published? What was your reaction? This was clearly racist nonsense and was indefensible even in 1970.

http://www.lds-mormon.com/christ_i.shtml

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Posted by: beeblequix ( )
Date: December 16, 2013 10:24PM

Oh yeah baby!

I found this pamphlet in our missionary apartment near a film strip projector, a copy of Johnny Lingo, a dead vacuum cleaner and other LDS propaganda. I loved reading it over and over. Finally I had actual Mormon Meat™! For quite a while that pamphlet filled in the gaps of my knowledge between what I knew about the Book of Mormon and the woefully-inadequate knowledge I had from ~obviously corrupted school teachers~, each and every one of them participating in a vast left-wing conspiracy against God and especially the One True Church in the Cosmos, who refused to tell the classroom that Jesus visited America and scientists keep hiding all the evidence that proves Mormonism is true(!!!)(!). Ironically it was also this pamphlet that helped me see Mormonism for the fraud that it is -- it illustrates that people held up as 'prophets, seers and revelators' oftentimes lead people astray.

Everyone should read this pamphlet and then follow it up with the Mormon Stories podcast with the brilliant Dr. Michael Coe.
http://mormonstories.org/michael-coe-an-outsiders-view-of-book-of-mormon-archaeology/



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/16/2013 10:31PM by beeblequix.

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Posted by: Facsimile 3 ( )
Date: July 28, 2018 12:45PM

beeblequix, you just described my own upbringing and world view perfectly!

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Posted by: anybody ( )
Date: July 25, 2018 12:21AM

http://www.geocitiessites.com/Athens/Acropolis/1890/Christ_in_America.htm



THE Great White God of ancient America still lives! The divine personage that emerges from the discoveries and writings of archaeologists and historians now stands out as an unassailable reality. The mystery that so long veiled the puzzling traditions of the natives is swept aside by newly found but centuries old records that open a widely expanded view of this divinity and his labors in the Western Hemisphere.

There was such a God!

According to the findings of scholars, he came to America long before the time of Columbus.

He taught the ancients his true religion, raised some of their dead, healed many of their sick, taught new and more productive methods of agriculture, and established a government of equality and peace.

He came suddenly and left suddenly in a supernatural manner.

The ancients regarded him as the Creator, come to earth in bodily form.

Tradition
MANY now readily admit that his teachings were akin to those of the Bible.

And that he promised to return in a second coming is an acknowledged fact, well attested by historical accounts.

The tradition of a White God in ancient America was preserved through generations of Indians from Chile to Alaska, and has been significantly persistent likewise among the Polynesians from Hawaii to New Zealand.

In their main details all such traditions agree. They differ in name and minor details from island to island and from country to country, but the overall outline remains the same—there was a Great White God. He came among their forefathers, ministered for a while, and then left again. Some say he ascended to heaven.

Known by Many Names
SO convincing is the information now available concerning the White God as he appears in the legends of the Aztecs that Paul Herrmann was induced to say in his book Conquest by Man:

“Carefully considered this leaves no conclusion open than that the Light God Quetzalcoatl was a real person, that he was neither an invention of Spanish propaganda nor a legendary figment of Indian imagination” (p. 172).

This being, known as Quetzalcoatl in parts of Mexico, primarily in the Cholula area, was known as Votan in Chiapas and Wixepechocha in Oaxaca, as Gucumatz in Guatemala, as Viracocha and Hyustus in Peru, as Sume in Brazil, and as Bochica in Colombia.

To the Peruvians he was also known as Con-tici or Illa-Tici, Tici meaning both Creator and the Light. To the Mayans he was principally known as Kukulcan.

In the Polynesian islands he was Lono, Kana, Kane, or Kon, and sometimes Kanaloa—the Great Light or Great Brightness. He also was known as Kane-Akea, the Great Progenitor, or Tonga-roa, the god of the ocean sun.

His Personage
WHAT did he look like, this Great White God?

He was frequently described as a tall white man, bearded and with blue eyes. He wore loose, flowing robes. He came from the heavens and went back to the heavens.

He healed the sick, gave sight to the blind, cured the lame, and raised some of the dead. He taught a better life, telling the people to do unto others as they would be done by, to love their neighbors as themselves, and to always show kindness and charity.

He seemed to be a person of great authority and unmeasured kindness He had power to make hills into plains and plains into high mountains. He could bring fountains of water from the solid rock.

In addition to giving them rules on how to live peacefully together, he urged them to greater learning, and also taught them improved methods of agriculture.

Promised Second Coming
ONE of the remarkable things about his coming was that he appeared after a period of darkness in all the land, during which the people had prayed for a return of the sun. While the darkness yet prevailed, “they suffered great hardship . . . and . . . made great prayers and vows to those they held to be their gods, imploring of them the light that had failed.” After the light had returned, then came a “white man, of large stature, whose air and person aroused great respect and veneration. . . . And when they saw his power, they called him the Maker of all things, their Beginning, Father of the sun.” (See Pedro de Cieza de Leon, The Incas, trans. by Harriet de Onis, pp. 27-28.)

This personage, as he taught his religion, also urged the people to build great temples for worship. As he left them, he promised his second coming, which caused the natives to look for his return even as the Jews look for their promised Messiah. (See Pierre Honore, In Quest of the White God, pp. 16-17.)

Spanish Conquistadores
DUE to the anxiousness with which they were awaiting the return of this White God, the natives mistakenly supposed that with the arrival of the Spaniards in America, this promise was fulfilled (see Honore, p. 17). A similar event took place in the Hawaiian Islands with the arrival of Captain James Cook. These historical events serve to strengthen the evidence supporting the reality of the White God.

When the Spanish Conquistadores reached South America, one of Pizzaro's lieutenants strode ashore wearing his helmet and breastplate and carrying a shining musket. He made an impressive appearance.

Natives on the shore watched him in amazement He was a white man! As Pedro de Candia strode toward them, they knelt before him and began to say “Viracocha, Viracocha.” It puzzled the gallant Pedro. The natives drew nearer, surrounding him. Somewhat fearful himself, he fired his gun into the air, expecting to frighten the natives away. But they did not move. Instead they whispered, “Illa Tiki, Illa Tiki,” meaning “the god of lightning.” The Indians thought he was their returning white god Viracocha, and that with his gun he controlled both thunder and lightning. (See Paul Herrmann, Conquest by Man, pp. 181-82.)

Cortez
HERNANDO Cortez was likewise believed to be the returning White God as he came to Mexico in 1520. When the coastal natives saw that he was white, a leader among his men, and that he came in a large ship with white sails, they conjectured that the Great White God had arrived.

Montezuma, the Aztec ruler, remembered that when he was crowned as emperor, the priests of the Aztec cult reminded him: “This is not your throne, . . . it is only lent to you and will one day be returned to the one to whom it is due. (Monroe, p. 66.)

Montezuma made plans to greet Cortez with all the respect he owed to the White God whom his Aztec religion had taught him to expect. Precious gifts were brought to Cortez; the riches of the realm were opened to him. He was honored as a deity indeed. (See William H. Prescott, History of the Conquest of Mexico.)

Captain Cook
WHEN Captain James Cook sailed into the peaceful waters of the Hawaiian Islands, he too was mistaken for the White God.

The natives there, like their relatives in America, had long expected the second coming of their Great White God.

Seeing Captain Cook, a white man of high command, sailing in a large ship with great white sails such as the natives had never before seen, the Hawaiians received and worshiped him as their long-looked-for golden-haired god Lono.

Remarkably, Captain Cook had landed during the makahiki festival, the celebration that kept alive the traditions of the white god Lono. King Kalaniopuu welcomed him and his party, and the native priests led him with high ceremony to the great stone truncated pyramid that was Lono's temple. In amazement, the redoubtable British explorer accepted their obeisance, quite willing to receive any honors they were willing to bestow upon him. (See J.C. Beaglehole, The Life of Captain Cook, pp. 648-60.)

Drifted from Moses
NOT only have the oft-told stories of the White God continued through the ages, but his teachings are also still dear to the hearts of the natives.

One or the remarkable survivals is that recounted in Stephen's Incidents of Travel in Central America. The author quotes what Fuentes, chronicler of the ancient kingdom of Guatemala and of the Toltecan Indians, said of the origin of these people. Fuentes said that, according to the grandson of the last king of the Quiches, the Toltecs were Israelites, released by Moses from the tyranny of Pharaoh. After crossing the Red Sea, they became idolaters. To escape the reproofs of Moses, they strayed away. Under the leadership of a man named Tanub, they drifted from continent to continent until finally they came to a place they called the seven caverns, a part of the kingdom of Mexico, where they founded the city of Tula. The story recounts that from Tanub, their leader, sprang the families of the Tula and the Quiche

Other traditions tell of four brothers who led their families from far distant lands to the east, over the oceans, to the new world where they settled and built cities.

Mayan Beliefs
POPOL Vuh, the sacred book of the ancient Quiche Maya, reveals that the early Americans believed in a trinity of deities. They believed also in a heavenly father and a heavenly mother, and that the Eternal Father and his Beloved Son were the creators of heaven and earth. Members of the trinity were known as Caculhá, Huracán, Chipi-Caculhá, and Raxa-Caculhá. They were called the “Heart of Heaven.” (See Popol Vuh, trans. by Delia Goetz and Sylvanus G. Morley, pp. 81-82.)

Popol Vuh also speaks of the creation as having been accomplished by this trinity—three deities—creators and makers of all (pp. 81-92). These early Americans did not believe in any sexless, formless, phantom-like god. To them the trinity were real persons, who had sex and personality.

These early Americans, as shown in this same volume, believed in a person much like the devil who boasted of his brilliance and power, saying my eyes are of silver, bright, resplendent as precious stones, as emeralds; my teeth shine like perfect stones, like the face of the sky. . . . So then I am the sun, I am the moon, for all mankind” (Popol Vuh, p. 93).

This evil being sought to usurp the glory of God but failed. “His only ambition was to exalt himself and to dominate” (Popol Vuh, p. 94).

The manuscript from ancient Indian sources explains that at that time “neither our first mother nor our first father had yet been created” (Popol Vuh, p. 96).

There is also the story of the woman being tempted to eat the fruit of a tree and asking, “Must I die, shall I be lost, if I pick one of this fruit?” (Popol Vuh, p. 119).

The story of a great flood is recounted among the early Americans (Popol Vuh, p. 90).

Christ Came to America
WHO was this Great White God?

As Jesus Christ ministered in mortality among the Jews, he spoke of another body of believers—his other sheep. (See John 10:16.) He promised to go to them and minister among them. This he did—in America.

Prophets also ministered in ancient America; even as others did in Palestine, and during the same period of time.

These Western prophets wrote their sacred history, as did their Palestinian counterparts. In this manner another volume of scripture was prepared. Known as the Book of Mormon, it tells of God's dealings with ancient America, as the Bible relates the sacred history of the Eastern Hemisphere.

The Book of Mormon tells the facts about the coming of the White God, an event that occurred in America following Christ's resurrection in Palestine. Millions of people lived in America then. Some believed in the coming of Christ to their land. Others scoffed. The believers served the Lord; the scoffers followed every evil path.

When the Crucifixion took place and the earthquakes shook Palestine, even worse quakes, tempests, and conflagrations swept over the Western Hemisphere. The Book of Mormon tells the story:

“And it came to pass in the thirty and fourth year, in the first month, on the fourth day of the month, there arose a great storm, such an one as never had been known in all the land.

“And there was also a great and terrible tempest; and there was terrible thunder, insomuch that it did shake the whole earth as if it was about to divide asunder.

“And there were exceeding sharp lightnings, such as never had been known in all the land.

“And the city of Zarahemla did take fire” (3 Nephi 8:5-8).

According to the account, the damage was immense. Highways were broken up, cities were sunk, many persons were slain, and the whole face of the land was changed—all this in the space of about three hours.

Then, “it came to pass that there was thick darkness upon all the face of the land, insomuch that the inhabitants thereof who had not fallen could feel the vapor of darkness” (3 Nephi 8:20).

After this condition, which lasted for three days, there came a voice, “and all the people did hear, and did witness of it, saying:

“O ye people of these great cities which have fallen, who are descendants of Jacob, yea, who are of the house of Israel, how oft have I gathered you as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and have nourished you.

“. . . how oft would I have gathered you as a hen gathereth her chickens, and ye would not” (3 Nephi 10:3-5).

Some days later a great multitude gathered together about the temple in the land Bountiful, and there came a voice three times:

“And behold, the third time they did understand the voice which they heard; and it said unto them:

“Behold my Beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased, in whom I have glorified my name—hear ye him.

“And it came to pass, as they understood they cast their eyes up again towards heaven; and behold, they saw a Man descending out of heaven; and he was clothed in a white robe; and he came down and stood in the midst of them; and the eyes of the whole multitude were turned upon him, and they durst not open their mouths, even one to another, and wist not what it meant, for they thought it was an angel that had appeared unto them.

“And it came to pass that he stretched forth his hand and spake unto the people, saying:

“Behold, I am Jesus Christ, whom the prophets testified shall come into the world.

“And behold, I am the light and the life of the world; and I have drunk out of that bitter cup which the Father hath given me, and have glorified the Father in taking upon me the sins of the world, in the which I have suffered the will of the Father in all things from the beginning.

“And it came to pass that when Jesus had spoken these words the whole multitude fell to the earth; for they remembered that it had been prophesied among them that Christ should show himself unto them after his ascension into heaven.

“And it came to pass that the Lord spake unto them saying:

“Arise and come forth unto me, that ye may thrust your hands into my side, and also that ye may feel the prints of the nails in my hands and in my feet, that ye may know that I am the God of Israel, and the God of the whole earth, and have been slain for the sins of the world.

“And it came to pass that the multitude went forth, and thrust their hands into his side, and did feel the prints of the nails in his hands and in his feet; and this they did do, going forth one by one until they had all gone forth, and did see with their eyes and did feel with their hands, and did know of a surety and did bear record, that it was he, of whom if was written by the prophets, that should come.

“And when they had all gone forth and had witnessed for themselves, they did cry out with one accord, saying:

“Hosanna! Blessed be the name of the Most High God! And they did fall down at the feet of Jesus, and did worship him” (3 Nephi 11:6-17).

In the days that followed, the same divine visitor introduced the blessing of the bread and wine as a sacrament; he called forth all their sick, afflicted, lame, blind, and dumb, and healed them; he organized an administration to teach and baptize in his name, and he counseled these leaders and the multitudes about his doctrine. And after many days, “there came a cloud and overshadowed the multitude that they could not see Jesus.

“And while they were overshadowed he departed from them, and ascended into heaven. And the disciples saw and did bear record that he ascended again into heaven” (3 Nephi 18:38-39).

This is the true story of the Great White God. He is Jesus the Christ, the Savior of all mankind.

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Posted by: gettinreal ( )
Date: July 25, 2018 06:40PM

Well..... I’m convinced..... X-D

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Posted by: donbagley ( )
Date: July 25, 2018 01:18AM

My parents were so fond of Peterson, they named my youngest brother after him.

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Posted by: baura ( )
Date: July 25, 2018 01:22AM

Ah yes, the "proof" that the world refuses to look at yadda yadda.

When I was a freshman at college in the fall of 1964, I met a
graduate student. We were both members of the same campus club
and we walked across campus and chatted. I found out she was an
archaeologist specializing in New World archaeology--mesoamerica
etc.

Wow, I thought, this is perfect. So, with "every member a
missionary" blinking in neon lights in my brain I started to
speculate out loud to her about how Quetzalcoatl could have been
Jesus Christ coming to America after his crucifixion. How it
all fit (white bearded guy etc.). To me it was a no-brainer.
After all, I'd heard it expounded from the pulpit and seen it
discussed in books my Dad had about "Book of Mormon
archaeology."

With patience and kindness she informed me that Quetzalcoatl
couldn't have been Jesus because the timing was about a thousand
years off. Quetzalcoatl dates to around a millennium after
Jesus.

Gee, nobody at Church ever mentioned that to me. And that
wasn't the only time the pat-arguments that I heard repeatedly
from the pulpit of our small-town branch were thrown out by me
only to be shot down with things I'd never considered.

That's why they lowered the missionary age to 18. They needed
to eliminate that freshman year at college when your little
Mormon brain gets expanded in ways you never expected.

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Posted by: anybody ( )
Date: July 25, 2018 07:19AM

then back to Jerusalem.

In religion you can make up whatever you want.

Problem solved.


BTW, you were in high school when Dr Who started? That's like thirty years before I was born...

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Posted by: logged off ( )
Date: July 25, 2018 02:34AM

"To them the trinity were real persons, who had sex and personality."

What did Mark E. Petersen know about sex or personality? He had neither.

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Posted by: donbagley ( )
Date: July 25, 2018 03:34AM

Ha ha ha...see my comment above.

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Posted by: Benvolio ( )
Date: July 25, 2018 10:41AM

Only slightly related to the post.

In the sixties I think Mark E Petersen was European Mission President. I remember him at a stake conference railing against sex education. According to my recollection these many years later, he was railing against sex education. He said something like: I didn't have sex education and somehow we managed to have ten children.

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Posted by: yorkie ( )
Date: July 25, 2018 11:22AM

Wasn't it Mark E Petersen who said in 44 years of marriage he'd never seen his wife naked?

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Posted by: Benvolio ( )
Date: July 25, 2018 12:15PM

Yes. I remember that.

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Posted by: Dave the Atheist ( )
Date: July 25, 2018 10:08AM

I'm confused. Was his name PetersON or was it PetersEN ?

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Posted by: ificouldhietokolob ( )
Date: July 25, 2018 10:11AM

PetersEN.

But using "o" instead of "e" is a common mistake, and understandable :)

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Posted by: snowball ( )
Date: July 27, 2018 04:45PM

I wanted to strap my arms to the bed posts and dream about my Cadillac. ;)

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