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Date: February 03, 2014 01:43PM
Seriously? This is a moot point because… it has nothing to do with p-hood, as a never-mo she assumes
Wanted to respond the other day but the boards were closed, and, since I seduced her this morning, or was seduced- it’s hard to tell sometimes- (I made the bed and she made the coffee) [woman’s role? Please! man’s “ responsibility”? come on!]) I was too busy to respond until now. When it happens, it happens, and who is counting? Do you and your lover keep track of who says something nice first, who lights the candles, brings flowers, makes the bed, and puts on sexy clothes or attitude first? Btw, I often set the tone with a gesture, flowers, candles, setting up and cleaning up, etc. I expect her to come onto me if she wants to (and vice versa) and I rarely refuse- while she expects me to make all the moves. She says she tried the first few years but now seldom, if ever does. (She criticizes my shape or something insignificant and I could say the same about her). What’s up with that? At least all the Mormon girls I knew who had sex (with a lover or spouse), mixed up as they may or may not be about the subject, figured they had to do something to get it. Are non-Mormon or never-mo girls any different in their entitlement or expectations than Mormon or LDS chicks when it comes to sex? Do only p-hood men suddenly take charge when a normal man won’t? Note: I never held the priesthood but dropped it as soon as I “got it”. Does the p-hood give a man power or authority or sudden interest in his lover he did not previously possess before TSCC?
Besides…
What it's the difference between p-hood entitlement and m-entitlement (and for that matter, women's entitlement- her thinking the male has to do all the coming-on)? If both partners are equally interested, loving and/ or sexy, fit, awake, and desirous, what could keep them apart and who would care or matter why it came on? You couldn't tear them apart and it wouldn't matter who had the ball because they would both be in the same court.
A little background, clarification, filling in the blanks and adding some details since it helps to have all or most of the facts or hear both sides right? Then your response/ comments may be different:
“non mormon woman been seeing someone not seriously for a while. he's not RM and claims to be getting out some day. however, he has a tendency to make comments like "if YOU seduce ME you MIGHT get some." In the boards opinion does this seem like P-hood entitlement programming he needs to shake or is he just an arrogant jerkwad?l get laid tonight...”
Nothing to do with arrogance, brainwashing, entitlement or anything of the like but more accurately care and sharing and friendship and beauty and love. My words: Lovers Seduce Each Other!!!
Actually! - Left TSCC at 16 (a few decades ago), inactive ever since, (“resigned” rather recently officially after finding this board and much other stuff, like, coke-WoW, Romney, family bs, bishop bs, eq bs, Bednar video, etc., etc., etc…and she knows that [I am OUT!] but she is perhaps just trying to stir the pot). Met anon sex? a few years ago, were lovers maybe, now fwb (to put it bluntly, simply and mostly accurately & while she tells numerous people we are friends or roommates/ ex-roommates, blah, blah, blah), still semi-lovers part-time, when she wants it and isn’t after someone else (she come onto who she wants to - when she wants to - “Yep! difficult for me to admit when someone is hopelessly broken since I'm a big believer in a God of redemption. actually been stalling on a very nice work mate who's been politely hitting on me for a while. think it's that time!” & “Washing my sheets even as we speak! You never know! :-D” - in case he wants to seduce me or I want to seduce him – another man maybe), she isn’t tired, we have the time, are in the mood, is available (ie., not red), has the energy and somebody seduces somebody… still have love for each other. FWB is no guarantee one will get laid- just that they might. They could be your spouse and still there is no guarantee you'll get laid. Somebody still has to come on to/ "seduce" somebody. Even if you are gay, there must be one or more seducers. Duh. Is this sexism on her part? You both have to do work or earn it. Right?
Update: (Yes, I put the clean sheets on this morning or we both may have gotten laid on Sunday) [we were both too busy, tired, away, on the phone or pre-occupied to do it yesterday + the stupidbowl was on (though we didn’t watch it, everybody else did).
Last point: Clean sheets don't alone get a woman (or man) what they want but it is better than dirty or no sheets.
“… the board thinks I (she) will get it tonight.” To that I said yay, naturally, because that meant that I might also. Anyway…
Some call it black and white while wise others see it how it is - gray.
To paint a proper picture people need all the colors, textures and contrasts.
Man’s job? Woman’s job? Mormon or not, what difference does it make.
Smart = snb