With the stake president, of course. He needs me to give him a ride to the bank so he can take money out to catch up his tithing. You know, he has to pay his god dues on the money he was saving.......for his god work. WTF???

I know. It's stupid.

Is there anyway you can convince him not to go? This is 2 years of hell we're talking about...

Unbelievable.

It's not too late to have a heart-to-heart with the unsuspecting victim.

Suggest he spend two years in college instead.

Hopefully, you are not funding the mission insanity.

No no no no no
There is no such thing as catch up tithing.

It's either I'm sorry I repent now I will pay from now on.

Or, yessir that is a full tithe.

Or, it is paid ANNUALLY, as per d and c.

I know you knows it's a cult, but you have to save that money from the Phariseess.

Even if he can give it to actual charity instead.





Ask him if you can pay it in your name instead for tax, and then font pay it.

Anything.

I really feel for you.

Let us all not forget that the DC wording says something about paying on 'interest'.

'Interest' would be translated to mean 'profits'.

'Profits' would translate to mean anything above and beyond living expenses.

Of course, LD$ Inc. has translated that to mean 'gross income'.


I paid tithing back in the 60s as an 8 year old... 5 years later I was out of The Cult...........

Is it too late to tell him that since he is consecrating all of that money ( not to mention his time, which is far more valuable than money since it can't be saved or retrieved but thats a whole nother topic)towards his .mission, that he shouldn't have to pay tithing on it? The church is all about Money.

Yeah, I'm honestly more concerned about your son than the money. (as much as I don't want to see the cult get more money.)

You have to let him do what he thinks, but I wish you could convince him not to go.


I guess.....just tell him that he doesn't HAVE to do this. Tell him that you'll be there the instant he tries to communicate that he wants out. Particularly the MTC. You might even have to set up code words or a cheap secret phone. It's really more of a prison.

He knows I would rather he not go, but unfortunately my ex and the cult have a stronger hold on him than I. If I tried to convince him too much it would drive a wedge. He buys into the whole lie completely.

I was in the same boat with my son. I told him he didn't have to go but he chose to. I had hoped that perhaps going would open his eyes a bit to the church, but it sounds like he has had a decent time.

I pick him up from the airport when he comes home in around three months.

Hang in there. The two years went surprisingly fast.

I just got home a few months ago, a year early. I wish I would have quit while I was ahead (where your son is now). Looking back though, I can see how I was so naive. It's an interesting position to be in, with all the social pressure, hype, "testimony", etc.

Question:

how many interviews are now required?

IOW, how many hurdles/hoops?

Bishops interview, stake pres, and some online paperwork. There is another stake pres interview right before being set apart as well. That is it though. I've heard some bishops do periodic interviews before leaving, just because. Mine didn't.

"It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled." — Mark Twain

Tell the SP that he either backs off on paying back tithes for the priviledge of going on a mission or you will inform the local news agencies about this kind of practice that goes on out of the view of the public eye. "You have five seconds to respond president"

No church policy exists for this kind of blackmail and you should not allow your son learn the lesson that he must capitulate to such immoral demands. It is the exact opposite lesson that he needs to learn.



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I have thought of these scenarios, but living right in the middle of the morridor, the point would be mute. The kids spend fifty percent of the time at their mothers and she has a large family who are all tbm. This gives them a much larger social support group within the morg than I have out of the Morg. All I can do is make them know my stance and allow them their choices. They know I am always here for them.

You know your life situation best. I hope that at the very least you can let your son know how you feel about the back tithing thing and not just that you feel that it is wrong but the reasons why it is wrong. Of course let him decide for himself. After all, thats what the War in Heaven was all about.

My ex worked from the time he was 12. So by 19 he had quite a nest egg in the bank. He mostly was saving it for college. But wasn't aware of the pressure he'd be under to serve a mission, so he did and went to Japan.

His parents had paid 100% of his older brother's mission because he'd been a partier, had no money, and they were so thrilled that he suddenly came back to church and decided to serve a mission (when his draft lottery number came up as 11.)

So Ex assumed they would pay for his mission. They did--the last two months after Ex's bank account had been depleted. So he came back from his mission and his parents rewarded him with their 10-year-old car. That's all we had to our name but got married 3 months later anyway. Stupid brainwashed kids.

It's such a money suck. So your kid saves money for his mission and pays tithing on his other money but, noooo. Not enough. "Pay us first for the opportunity to be our indentured servant and then pay us more for actually getting to be one. If you run out of money we'll put the screws to your parents to pay up with money they've already given us a cut of."

And what part of C-U-L-T are they missing?

If he is going overseas strongly suggest, as the State Department does, that he leave a copy of his passport and drivers licence with you.

And he should keep a copy on his person at all times.

In fact, he should never surrender either of them to anyone, but the church will push him to do so.