In this long article about "no official position" members are left to believe what they want. EXCEPT--Adam is real, the fall is real, he is the father of the race (doesn't say which one) Eden is real,they were beautiful people. "What a tangled web we weave..."

http://www.ldsmag.com/article/1/14154

...this is the only Eden that makes any real sense.........

http://www.hissandpop.com/celebrities/e/barbaraeden/photos/barbara-eden-011.jpg

Extra-terrestrial dinosaurs? That's good. They need to stake their claim in crazyland before all the good spots are taken by Scientology.

If only we had a prophet that could just ask Jesus and let us know.

I know some TBM's acknowledge that there were pre-Adamites. They believe that Adam was just the first human with a "God-breathed soul". That's what you get when you try to mold science to fit your faith intead of molding your faith based on fact.

...you wanna' prophet?............here's a prophet.

http://blogs.ajc.com/radio-tv-talk/files/2009/04/mill_regis_b6.jpg

I will teach you the secret truths that explains all the bones of humans that are pre-adamites. After you read the truth, you must print this lesson and then eat the page.

God used this planet to test many different kinds of creatures. When god decided to make man, he made many different models, hence different DNA and bone structures, etc. Some survived, others died but finally god created Adam and Eve. Eve noticed god would enter and exit via a door out of Eden and one day she followed. Adam being the typical male, followed her outside into the lone and dreary world. The door locked and they could not return.

Adam being the STUD, spread his seed (DNA) with the pre-adamite females and let the little woman (Eve) take care of all his offspring. Thus some humans have non human DNA.

God of course got mad and when he could, he took off in his spaceship towards Kolob firing laser blasters at the humans which created a dust storm that killed all the dinosaurs and then flooded the earth.

We encourage you to pray about the story and let god tell you it is true via your feelings. Feelings teach us truths.

Not all truth is necessary.

So, if there were "pre-Adamites" (or any other life forms on earth for that matter), whenever they were born, they all lived up until about 6,000 years ago:

http://exmormon.org/phorum/read.php?2,1053163,1053483#msg-1053483


And that's a BIG problem for Mormonism.

The author of the Meridian article, William Dargan, has a degree in Zoology and his wife is a microbiologist, according to his Meridian profile. He should have been able to comment on the latest DNA studies that date the most recent common ancestor, but he did not. He completely ignored DNA evidence. Could he have left out the DNA angle because it is an inconvenient truth? Scientist currently date the most recent common ancestor as living more than 200,000 years ago. This pretty much debunks all of the common beliefs, official and unofficial positions of the church, and personal opinions of GAs that he lists in the article. The fact that he leaves out important research discredits the claim of John Taylor that he quotes, "We are open to the truth of every kind."

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/01/140122134148.htm


By the way, wikipedia has an article on the most recent common ancestor that claims a time frame of 2,000 to 4,000 years ago. I'm sure Creationists love this conclusion. That estimate comes from a mathematical model that uses Monte Carlo simulation and was not based on any study of DNA, rather merely on a genealogical approach. This 2004 study had to do with population sizes and mating patterns, but ignored the actual diversity of DNA that has now been sampled globally.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Most_recent_common_ancestor

Here's the link to the study cited in wikipedia:
http://steveolson.com/uploads/2009/04/nature-common-ancestors2.pdf

I took paleontology from Morris Peterson waaaaaay back in 1983. He was a pretty good prof and seemed to have most things straight -- from 4.6 billion years ago to about 6,000 years ago anyway.

The idea in this comment is becoming popular with Mormons:

"Another possibility -- Adam and Eve were the first "humans" to be spiritual offspring of our Heavenly Father. There would have been plenty of other humans running around, but their spirits, like those of other creatures at the time, simply were not spirits descending directly from God the Father as His children."

Comments like that one imply that the recent DNA study on the Clovis child was really just an animal.

It is disturbing when the ancestors of American Indians prior to 6,000 years ago are dehumanized. But that is what happens when there is "no official position".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHXZ9QJVADg

I don't get it. It is no longer acceptable to say that Blacks were less valiant in the pre-existence. That kind of thing is shunned.

But this Meridian article says "a large group of pre-mortal spirits who, perhaps fearing – after much consideration and counseling – that they weren’t going to do so well on their earth-exam if presented with the full Gospel, “plea-bargained,” in effect, that, if they could live and die without being exposed to either celestial or civilized law – either on earth or in the post-mortal spirit world – they could receive an inheritance in a portion of the Terrestrial Kingdom".

Did I read the article correctly? Did the author really propose that the pre-Adam ancestors of American Indians were not human or maybe they were worse than "less valiant" Blacks?

WTF?

Of course Adam and the Garden was real. How else do you explain Adam's Altar at Adam-Ondi-Ahman?

See, actual proof right before your eyes - even if the stones have to hauled in once or twice each summer to replace all those stolen by visitors who go home believing they have an actual stone from Adams Altar.

We should note that according to TSCC doctrine, there was no death before A and E ate the forbidden fruit. That includes, as I understand it, all animals. Pre-Adamites? TSCC has taught they could not have died! Moreover, the divisions of man were more than 6000 years ago. Only moism and a few fundie groups have to hold that everything in the OT was literal. Taking the garden etc. as allegory there is no problem. But JS discovered the site of the garden. In North America no less.



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Meridian Magazine is the waste receptacle for all the articles that didn't make it into the Ensign.

They should rename it "Meridian, Not God Enough For The Ensign, Magazine"



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