From her letter:

"I met my first athiest this week. He's living with one of our investigators who is really prepared. We talked to him twice this week and it was one of the saddest things I have ever seen. He told us 'I don't believe in God. I believe in science.' It made me reflect a lot on what Brother Marsh (my Book of Mormon teacher) told us one time: We can prove that God exists. Just one person one time in all of history has to see Him. And I know that people have. I know for a surety that Joseph Smith saw both the Father and the Son and that he spoke with them face to face as have other prophets throughout all history. But it is impossible to prove that God doesn't exist. In order to prove that God doesn't exist you would have to be in every single part of the universe at the same moment, and that's impossible. I am so grateful for the knowledge and security that I have in knowing that He lives and loves us. I know that He has a plan for us. It was really hard to see our investigator, Maria Elena, in this time. They have 2 kids and their basically married. But we asked him if he supported his wife's decision to be baptized and he said yes but that he "knows" it isn't necesary to get married. Seeing the look on her face broke my heart. She just started crying and I could only imagine the pain and burden that she was feeling, first to see someone that she loves reject God and to see her hopes of baptism fading. We're going to keep talking to him and pray that he continues to read the Book of Mormon and I know that God can work a miracle in their lives."

Someone somewhere claims to have seen Santa. He must be real. Go ahead - prove he isn't.

I also hear there are some that believe in a flying spaghetti monster. Someone probably claims to have seen him too.
Go ahead - prove he isnt real.

And it came to pass that I, the koolest of them all, did come to see His Majesty, The Flying Spaghetti Monster.

And it came to pass that He revealed unto me, his son, all the things that aren't actually true, but alas;

It came to pass that I found in my soul the trueness and fullness of Him.

And it came to pass that I, koolman of the second degree, did feel His Noodly Appendage, and it was good.

Ramen.

Riverman Wrote:
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> Someone somewhere claims to have seen Santa. He
> must be real. Go ahead - prove he isn't.
>
> I also hear there are some that believe in a
> flying spaghetti monster. Someone probably claims
> to have seen him too.
> Go ahead - prove he isnt real.

Plutarch describes the exact location where Diana appeared to someone long ago. Sort of like a Sacred Grove?

Those missionaries are going to heap on piles and piles of religious guilt until this couple, which started out just fine, breaks. Yay eternal families?

Like all those couples who thought their relationships were in good shape until the church convinced them that porn usage is a type of serious relationship trouble.

News to Mormons: many of the things the church defines as serious problems are NON-ISSUES for happy people outside the church.

This is exactly what I thought of when my DW cried out on FB and said she feels bad for anyone who is married and their other changes their beliefs. But she only meant if they leave mormonism, it's different it the person is becoming a mormon.

This sister missionary has that special Mormon talent of spinning everything in a faith-promoting direction. She jumps to conclusions about why Maria Elena cried, the man being wrong about the necessity of marriage, that God exists, and that God can work an undefined miracle in this family's life.

If a person used cognitive gymnastics like this in a real job...

She is delusional if she thinks she's only now meeting her first atheist.

But what that guy supposedly said irritates me. You can't believe in science, and saying you do makes it look like science is your religion. Science just is!

That was my first thought, too. I'm sure she's met plenty of atheists. She just never had a conversation with one about atheism before.

It's like when people say they don't know anyone who is gay. And I say, "Sure you do. You just don't know they're gay." Although that conversation is happening less frequently all the time, since it's becoming safer to be openly gay. The same is happening for atheism, too. Hopefully one day soon, atheists will feel like it's okay to come out of the closet.

My sister's brother-in-law's nephew's dad's stepmother said her great grandmother was told by her aunt that their father's uncle's best friend had seen someone who had known someone who had seen the Easter Bunny.

Good enough for me. If one person saw him, well then . . .that's your proof right there.

Mormon Logic! Well actually it seems wrong to put those two words together.

It's sad alright, but not in the way the dear sister thinks it is.

Has it always been a rule that someone can't get baptized in the LDS church if they are "living in sin"?

Yes

Future Rhodes scholar, that one.

It's like reading something from an alternate reality where logic doesn't count. I wish it was made up.

If you can hook an investigator into believing that Joe Smith had a real visitation in the grove, all the mishie has to do is start reeling 'em in.

RM's, your opinion?

I've never realized before how missionaries (and mormons in general) overuse and misuse the verb "to know".

Chupacabra, sasquatch (samsquanch in Canada), mermaids, aliens, ghosts, batboy, the New Jersey Devil, Elvis at Burger King, all have been seen by one or more eyewitnesses. But nobody's going around knocking on doors and acting like an ass about it.

Ever since I saw my first episode of The Trailer Park Boys, I've been calling them samsquanches.

The Sister has not only met atheists before, she has sat next to
them in Church before.

And thus begins that couples marital problems...

Insanity... When you believe that your hallucinations are real.

Religion...When you believe that someone else's hallucinations are real.

Besides, no one knows how many atheists they've met since unlike Mormons, atheists are usually nice normal people who don't meddle or brag about their atheism.

(And by abuser, I mean the church...it's their rule)



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Of course I work in facilities whose clientele is almost exclusively people with severe paranoid schizophrenia. Some of them have even seen God.

This broad ain't even had a penis in her vagina, yet she is giving all kinds of worldly advice.

Hell, she's just a few years away from believing in The Tooth Fairy, which is closer to reality than Joe, Gawd and the BOM combined.

Fuck her and her religion...

Where's she from? Atheists arent exactly rare. Childish.

Sure, JS claimed to see God and Jesus. He also claimed to translate the Kinderhook Plates, claimed he could run a bank, and pretended that he only had one wife. The guy was a liar, and you are going to base your entire belief in God on this one douchebag?

Of course she is young and her parents would discredit any source that didn't not glorify JS, but the non-TBM evidence shows him as a confidence man with a messianic complex.