Over at the BabyCenter LDS board, they are listing their moneysaving techniques.

http://community.babycenter.com/post/a26615273/what_do_you_do_to_save_helpful_tips_thread

While I’m all for savings money and applaud their efforts for many of their techniques there’s one that really scared me: not serving milk…to their KIDS! Come on! I am a believer of the “if you can’t feed them, don’t breed them”.

Of course, I’m also bothered by those who have far too many children and can’t properly care for them in all the other ways as well; not just barely putting a roof over their head and food & clothing. Having a husband who comes from a large Mormon family, he tells of being in HS and getting two pairs of pants and a few shirts for the year…the rest of his clothes he had to buy on his own. Of course now we hear from the grandparents “Oh, we have so many kids/grandkids, we can’t send b’day/Christmas gifts, etc.” So now it passes on to our kids who wonder why their friends get loads of things from the grandparents when they get nothing or next to nothing.

Anyway, not giving little kids milk to save money is about the lowest I've heard.

The one who says "we use sessions at the temple for date night and if we're really feeling extravagant, we eat at the temple cafeteria" made me feel very, very sorry for her...

until I got to

"We get WIC"

She's paying 10% of hubby's gross to go to temple, but my tax dollars are feeding her kids?

Jeezus flippin' kris kringle. If they stopped paying tithing, those kids would eat regular food and I'd be A>LOT>LESS>PISSED>OFF

I know what WIC is. I know what it is supposed to d, and no, I do not want her kids to starve, or be malnourished.

But I don't care if her crack is God, or is, in fact, actual crack.

I don't want to have to pay for her poor choices in life. especially if she keeps making them bu choosing to have more kids that she and hubby also will not be able to support.

Same with the woman who takes milk away as a food choice to save money, when her kids are as young as those in her "look at me I'm perfect" portrait (when said pic itself did not come cheap).

WTH is the matter with these people?

I'm a good liberal and support welfare support for people who need it, but they should be banned from giving large donations to charities. If a person wants to give $5 or $10 every week to the collection plate to a church that helps them, that's one thing. Handing 10% of your income to LDS, Inc when you claim WIC is disgusting.

Why are they getting milk from the government if they are paying the LDS, Inc.? Why does the church give them milk from their overrated welfare system?

I posted an editoral from the SL Trib about the BofM and socialism. Several TBM friends/relatives said, "Oh, well, it's different if it's run by the church." I wanted to say, "yeah, it's worse!" What I said was, "I prefer democracy to theocracy."

If the church is so great at running the government, why is Utah such a mess?

If you didn't give LDS, Inc. 10% of your income, the average family would save $6,000 a year, or $500 a month. That way you could afford to buy sodas on your date nights, get the kids a few pairs of jeans, and even put some money into your retirement and college funds.

No joke!!! It's amazing the things you can afford to provide for your family on sale when you're not being coerced into giving away 10% of your income.

Even if they gave about 2% that most Christian churches are happy to get from members (and don't really expect anything from those truly in need), they would still save $400 a month.

That's why the Morg is a CULT, demanding 10% for membership, and not just letting members pay what they can actually afford.

Good point about paying LDS inc and getting WIC. You know, it makes me wish that services like WIC and Foodstamps would have a rule that you can't be donating money (espeically such a large sum) and ask for help at the same time. They have rules about how much you can have in assests, sure wish they'd check on this first!

westernwillows, I love this!

"Its like watching the NatGeo channel about another culture."

my apologies for goofing up the format..that post was suppose to go below and not above

The good ole Mormons that are in debt thanks to tithing can still give 10% to the CULT, declare bankruptcy, and default on their legitimate creditors.

The CULT gets their 10%, but legitimate persons/businesses that are owed money are out of luck. And guess who you get to thank for that being added to the national bankruptcy bills? That's right: Utah's senior senator, whose name rhymes with snatch.

I am extremely frugal and some of those made me cringe.

These women are delusional. The Prozac must be making them think that this is an okay way to live. DH and I don't have children--in part because we feel like we can't afford them. The ONLY debts we have are our mortgage and my student loans. We have two newer vehicles that we paid cash for. We have 6 months of living expenses in a savings account in case something happens to one of us. I am self employed and waitress part time, so I buy my own high deductible health insurance plan, DH has good health insurance through work, but it won't let him reasonably cover me or a child. Sure, we could afford the basic expenses of raising a child (food, clothing, shelter) but if it got sick or injured, especially something serious, I don't feel like we have enough coverage. So we've chosen not to have any at this time.

Some of these women can't even afford daily living expenses! Those poor children. And poor husbands who are being forced to carpool (because the stay at home wife is using the car he paid for to drag kids around town) and being forced to have homemade haircuts, and sandwiches on homemade bread.

Good thing none of these women have a Celiac child. Or a lactose intolerant one.

I can't imagine living in that world. Its like watching the NatGeo channel about another culture.

Hey what's wrong w/ homemade bread? My Williams-Sonoma bread machine bread tastes *much* better (and costs more) than generic 'wonder-bread.

I think it is wonderful =) That is the ONE thing that I really truly miss since I found out I had Celiac disease. I bet though that those husbands eating sandwiches every day on homemade bread wish they could afford to have a nice lunch out with colleagues every once in a while, rather than the same old sandwich every day for eternity. I guarantee that if one of those husbands snuck out to McDonalds one day, they would never hear the end of it from the wife--how they spent "her" grocery money (that she does absolutely nothing to earn) on themselves.

That's where I was going with that =)

Is it really cheaper to make your own bread, especially if you are feeding a brood? I buy two large loafs of sandwich bread (local made in Montana! Not the Wonderbread stuff) for DH for $3 at Costco. Seems like ingredients would cost more than that.

I can't help but wonder how many of this women are like certain members of my extended family, and can go from talking about WIC and Food Stamps, to complaining about the Liberal Socialist Agenda without skipping a beat.

Good to know some others got a rise out of the lady getting WIC.. I too was feeling pretty sorry for her and her crappy sounding life and then ALL my sympathy melted away. How dare they ask for help while dumping 10% into a money pit. I am in support of welfare systems and helping people, but not people who have the money and actively choose to not use it to feed their children! WTF, I feel so sorry for all these kids.. can't even ask for a freaking glass of milk because mom and dad choose to live above their means, while mom sits on the Internet patting herself on the back for all those money smarts..

I'm really liberal, too, but liberal does not equal stupid, or "take advantage of me". Usually. : )

It really bothers me to see that WIC comment she made at BBC, because I know how many people go without, when others take what they don't deserve.

I am not sure what the answer is. I just know that it is wrong to lie and take food out of some other baby's mouth, so yours gets what you want it to have. And when you steal from a baby, and then get to keep your car, your cell phone, internet, and your TV?

UNETHICAL AND WRONG, no matter who and what color you are, what God you pray to, or how 'worthy' you claim to be...

I feel so sorry for those kids. Truly.

was such a tight wod. The guy would dig through the trash at every social event looking for plastic utensils that he would re-wash, and anything else of value that would "save money." Effing deluded wierdo is what he was. One time on a scout camp out, he grabbed dryer lint that a boy through away (used as a fire starter), and stuffed it in his rough sack. Sick bastard. Just completely nuts...but he was the Bishop.

I know WIC and food stamps are there for a reason, but many of these people are taking food away from others who really need it, because they won't stop giving 10% of their income to the corporation calling itself a church.

One other thing about people living way above their means is that it's part of what caused the foreclosure crisis, as too many people bought more house than they could afford, and when the recession hit and layoffs started, suddenly people weren't able to make mortgage payments.

Wow I read through most of those and it was like a competition to see who could deprive themselves the most.