OMG! I'd be so pissed.
I'd file a police report. She's creating a hostile environment in your neighborhood, for your daughter, effectively accusing her of things she's not doing, etc. She's probably bonkers. There's trouble brewing, I'm sure. Your daughter is only going to continue to mature, and this psycho lady is going to blow a gasket.

I agree with Summer on the original thread, suggesting that you tell the woman that if she has any problems with your daughter, then she is to address them with you.

Telling a 14-year-old girl that she is a temptress is beyond inappropriate. That should not be left alone without something being said about it.

Tell your daughter to be careful..... if Tommy sees her, he might want to secretly marry her.

I would hope this little girl would also get the validation of an apology. If the neighbor doesn't say sorry, the girl's parents could tell her she needn't worry about busy bodies like this one and that's it's fine to tell the woman that it's her parents alone who must approve her clothing choices.

:-D

I agree with Greyfort. 'Telling a 14-year-old girl that she is a temptress is beyond inappropriate.'

Not Mormon related, but when I was about 14 years old I visited a female teacher in the hospital. She was in her late 30's, husband in his 40's. He offered me a ride back into town, and the conversation seemed pleasant enough to me at the time.

The following week, when the teacher was back in school, she took me aside and said 'telling a mature man he must be missing his wife is very naive,' or some such. I felt sick, skipped class for a couple of days. yuck.

Nothin better than a good ole fashioned slut shaming

I would not file a police report unless this continues and escalates,but I would point out that your daughter was dressed the same way most girls her age dress and that it was not inappropriate by the standards of most people.Tell her that you do not intend to make your daughter dress according to her standarss and that it is none of her business anyway.Also tell her to.come to you and not embarrass you child in the future. I would be polite but very firm. You can bring in big guns if it continues. At this point I would not bother the police who have actualcrimes to deal with or escalate this any more than you have to

I would simply say, "Do not talk to my daughter again and keep your lecherous, perverted husband and son away from her."

Filing a police report on this is a waste of time and resources. Hostile environment is mainly for work sites, not neighborhoods.

Keeping a detailed notebook is not a bad idea, though.

May I add that I think someone needs a righteous cussin' out?

Or use the f-bomb so generously. :)

However, for the OP, I suggest sprinkle it every other word (if you feel comfortable) in this situation, including a hearty, "You fucking sicko, who the fuck do you fucking think you are, policing other people's clothing?!? Fuck you and go kick rocks, you vile bitch!"

You may have to practice this in the mirror first to really get a flow.

How about, "You fucking bitch! Who the fuck do you think you are fucking with my kids? Let me tell you something. There are two things you never fuck with - someone's money and someone's kids. Back the fuck up before I get angry!"

Sadly, I wouldn't be good at it, but maybe others could use these suggestions.

If her husband has a problem, maybe he needs a paper bag over his head. Then I thought, I don't know what your neighbor looks like. Maybe she needs the paper bag over her head.

14 y.o. wearing a short skirt is fine, because there comes an age when it doesn't look so good on a woman.

"Man, I'm actually *glad* I was a teen in the '80s."

Big hair, miniskirts, neon shoes, and acid wash.

Damn, Beth. I just got a visual of you in an acid-wash miniskirt with mall bangs ratted up to skyscraper heights and sprayed to just this side of crisp. I bet you rocked the 80's.

To the mama bear OP, I've seen photos of Mormon weddings where they have a life-sized cardboard cutout of their missionary son who couldn't be at the wedding in person. Get one of those cutouts of your daughter wearing the miniskirt AND a sleeveless blouse with a big smile on her face, one hand on her hip and the other hand waving.

Plop it on your front lawn facing the neighbors. It will help desensitize the lecherous dad and boundary-stomping mom and give the teenage kid something to look forward to when he's stuck at home. You don't have to say a word to make your point.

That is disgusting and beyond words.

Something I was thinking though is that the husband and son might not be at fault. It might be all in her head. TBM women (especially if they wear garments) are resentful of women (usually not girls) who wear clothing that would not work with garments. They get very jealous. I have seen some complain to their poor husbands often about checking out women when there wasn't a problem at all. They always blame their poor husbands for everything. Maybe he has a normal sex drive or she caught him looking at porn, so now she is demonizing him. He probably doesn't like to be blamed for checking females if he's not. He has to live with that crazy nut job! Just a thought. I don't know him though and you do, so you would have a better idea.

She just sounds like a complete nut-job.

That neighbor doesn't know a child of God.

Tell her to put her religion back in her head and never take it out around you again.

M@t

You know who else word mini skirts & minidresses? My TBM then-teenage aunt in the late 60s - early '70s. Of course she & TBM grandma fought over it, but grandma would relent. But even grandma wore skirts above her knee at the time, even while wearing garments.

If I were a cop, I would be pretty annoyed to get calls from people who can't handle their own interpersonal problems on such a basic level. It has nothing to do with the law or a "hostile environment" (which is a concept related to sexual harassment and which applies only to schools and workplaces; it has nothing to do with the criminal code).

Agree totally. This is not a police matter. The woman is rude and has trouble minding her own business, but that is not a crime.You need to handle it by setting some boundaries and then trying to stay away from her.Name calling and threats are not the way to go either. Be polite but firm. If it escalates to the point that she is threatening or stalking you, then call the police.Until then do not bother them with a difference of opinion with a.neighbor. If everyone did that, the police would be so busy settling quarrels that they wouldnt have time to catch criminals.That is not to say that this wouldnt make me mad or that I wouldnt say anything,but some poster arenreally over reacting,IMO



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Thankfully, you're not a cop since you can't handle even hearing about this possibility. Actual policemen have to have compassion and guts.

Typically I would agree that this board is to fast to play the police card but in this case I disagree quite vehemently. If anyone came over to my home and told me that a grown man was experiencing a lack of control because of the way my daughter dressed, I would have to call the police just to protect me from my own anger. Too many girls have been hurt by men who couldn't control themselves. I have read too many stories on this board about rape and molestation at the hands of Mormon men. It has happened in my own family.

I'm already quite nervous about their continued association with LDS inc. I don't need another reminder that there is some heartless soulless bastard who would try and hurt my girls.

I don't get it, whats up with Utards down there, I from time to time pick up my grade twelve daughter from school and the young ladies up here wear these skin tight yoga things and they leave nothing to the imagination, you can tell if they have a thong on or are going commando and the camel toes are very pronounced. This is a town with 90% Mormons.

Tell her any grown man who lusts afrer a 14 year old is a pedophile and you need to notify the neighborhood of her husbands problems so they can warn and protect their daughters. THAT will shut the beoch the fu@k up.

Is there a link to the original post?

Well, I guess you could say: "She's 14 now, and it's time for her to attract the attention of the Prophet--my daughter just *idolizes* Helen Mar Kimball, and I want to ensure her eternal salvation along with that of our family."

Then hand her a copy of D&C 132.....

I hope you marched right over there and told the f^cking bitch to keep her nose out of other people's business and, more especially, away from your daughter's skirt.

Her comments do not rise to the level of police or lawyer involvement but it is certainly at a level where she needs to be put in her place by you.

If you haven't done so, do it NOW.

People like her make such comments because they think they can get away with it.
She said this on purpose because she knew it would get back to you.

Being nice about will reap you nothing but more problems as your daughter gets older.

There is NO room for body shaming an adolescent girl, or any woman for that matter.

As the mother of 3 girls, the rule at our house was "finger-tip length". I'm presuming that yur daughters skirt was at lkeast this long.

This neighbor trespassed into the child's yard to chastise her about something that was none of her business.

People wear short shorts and swim suits in their yards every day all summer. That doesn't seem to drive males to immorality. It's crazy to say a skirt would do it.

Only a parent has a right to put rules on how their kids dress.

Nudity for all to see might be another issue, but no one has suggested that.

What a dumb comment. The issue isn't the skirt, it is the sick bastard of a neighbor who gets turned on by little girls.

BTW a finger length skirt, or a finger length above the knee?

I'd look this neighbor, if she EVER tries that again, right in the in the eye and say, "Why is your husband staring at a 14 year old girl anyway? If a skirt a few inches above the knee on young girl barely into her teens is "tempting" him, he's got a serious problem".

I'd suggest she check his computer for sexual e-mails to young girls.



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I suspect that is the reason she came over. She knows her husband is a sick fuck who should have his balls cut off and she is just trying to protect his eternal soul.